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Old January 15th, 2005, 03:50 AM   #11
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I bet it is banned in New York
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Old January 15th, 2005, 06:25 PM   #12
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Dunno if the CZ52 rings a bell, they can be had in shotgun news for under $100 and are chambered in the 7.62x25. If the 5.7 is little bro to the .223, the 7.62x25 is the same to the 7.62x39.

The Grendel P30 was chambered in .22 mag with a 30 round magazine in the grip, virtually the same size as the five seven and at the time they were being produced they could be had for under $200.

.22 mag has had this capability since it came out yet didnt draw any publicity because it was not designed to defeat soft body armor. But it does, and a hell of a lot cheaper than a 5.7x28.
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Old January 15th, 2005, 06:28 PM   #13
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I bet it is banned in New York
Youre law abiding New Yorkers are always welcome to come join the USA. :D
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Old January 15th, 2005, 06:43 PM   #14
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I bet it is banned in New York
Youre law abiding New Yorkers are always welcome to come join the USA. :D
I want to get the heck out of NY. I wanted to start checking out other states and getting my house ready to sell, but my back has kept me in bed for over a week so I haven\'t done a darn thing except post on a few forums.
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Old January 16th, 2005, 12:52 AM   #15
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Im doing the unthinkable and buying a house in Hawaii...doubt Ill stay there long after I get out of the military in 09\'. Ill rent it to the in-laws or something while I chase a 6 digit paycheck with a mainland based company.
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Old January 18th, 2005, 09:38 AM   #16
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You can bet on both those guns. I carry the CZ52 with me. At 1500 to 1600FPS I can\'t complain. Also have the 22 Magnum and it will do the job on those vests too. Love that CZ though.
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Old January 18th, 2005, 04:44 PM   #17
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Dunno if the CZ52 rings a bell, they can be had in shotgun news for under $100 and are chambered in the 7.62x25. If the 5.7 is little bro to the .223, the 7.62x25 is the same to the 7.62x39.
If I remember correctly, there was an incident a few years ago where a man, when pulled over for a traffic stop, shot a police officer right through his vest with either a CZ52 or Tokarev.

An individual, while looking at some Hydroshoks: \"Those are those evil, armor-piercing cop-killer bullets!\" :barf: Sometimes I wonder if they\'re being ill-informed or deliberately ignorant, but I suppose with them, it really doesn\'t matter.
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Old January 18th, 2005, 05:24 PM   #18
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I carry the CZ52 with me. At 1500 to 1600FPS I can\'t complain. Also have the 22 Magnum and it will do the job on those vests too. Love that CZ though
are you worried about overpenetration with the cz52? probably just me, but i would be.
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I hate to think what these people would think of my Carbon 15 pistol with a hundred round Beta mag full of actual AP ammo. :)

The press release on that one would be priceless.
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