Ugh ... they're at it again ... new AWB a comin' - Page 3

SIXTO · February 15th, 2007, 10:54 AM

I have spent almost all of my adult life in the military and as an LEO. I can say without a doubt that far more than the majority of us would not do this, and in fact would be more likely to defend the 2a. This goes for the ground pounders on up the food chain. I am sure there would be a number that would be willing to go door to door, but the other half would take care of that pretty quickly if it came down to it.
The worse thing the commi's in D.C. could do is to squeeze out ammo and parts.

Ray Nagin... I welcome that worthless pinko to come on over...

Tangle · February 15th, 2007, 11:08 AM

Correct me of course if I'm wrong, but isn't "protect/defend" the Consitution in the swearing in for the military?

SIXTO · February 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Yes, but the elected forget that.

ccw9mm · February 15th, 2007, 11:48 AM

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U.S. Senator & U.S. Representative

House of Representatives (Oath or Affirmation)

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God. This oath is mandated by Article VI of the Constitution and its text is set by statute (5 U.S.C., Sec. 3331). "

To defend faithfully. Wouldn't that be new. 'Nuff said.

cphilip · February 15th, 2007, 12:16 PM

http://carolynmccarthy.house.gov/ind...k=b&ItemID=675

Here she goes. Even exagerates the numbers.

4my son · February 15th, 2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SIXTO

I have spent almost all of my adult life in the military and as an LEO. I can say without a doubt that far more than the majority of us would not do this, and in fact would be more likely to defend the 2a.

That's good to hear, but I have often wondered, those that would go all out to carry out the order, how many times will they enter a house, just like their parents, or brothers, or sisters, or their own child’s, and be forced to kill one or more of the occupants, just like their parents, or brother, or sister, or their own child, before they begin to wonder if they could possible be wrong?

I think of it as a tide, that flows in two directions, the question is, what will it take to get the tide to flow back out, how long, how many people killed, before the majority of the military, mainly the bigwigs to realize that the order is wrong.

I guess that also begs another question, before the order gets to the ground pounders, how do the Generals feel about the 2A, and how many of then would "stop the buck right here".

SIXTO · February 15th, 2007, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 4my son

I guess that also begs another question, before the order gets to the ground pounders, how do the Generals feel about the 2A, and how many of then would "stop the buck right here".

My best guess would be about an 80/20 split... 80% good guys. The rest are nothing more than politicians.

SammyIamToday · February 15th, 2007, 02:47 PM

Eh, I wouldn't say it's the end just yet. Just some bimbo in NY introducing a stupid bill. No cosponsors yet, and it's still in committee where it's likely to die. Granted it might not, and I will be contacting my representatives about it, but I don't think it's quite the end just yet.

MD_Willington · February 15th, 2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jednp

The damn people who did these shootings, especially the guy who used the AK, could have used ANY gun for this shooting.

He could have used a machete, it is the weapon of choice in other countries where there is "happy-day, sunshine & lollipop" weapons bans... I've seen it, and not just in Africa, the owner of my local pool hall in Canada had to parry a machete with a poolstick... local drug dealers tried to take off his girlfriends head in the parking lot.

buckeyeLCPL · February 15th, 2007, 08:29 PM

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In Salt Lake City, a young man opened fire in a crowded mall, killing more than 10 individuals. It appears the shooter was not mentally stable and police are still investigating how he obtained the weapons

Last I saw there were 5 dead, and I think i remember reaind he had a pump-action, which was not covered by the previoud ban.

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I have again introduced legislation to permanently ban assault weapons. These weapons have no practical use. They are not used by hunters for sport or by individuals for self-defense.

Who says they aren't used for self defense in some people's homes? If I could hunt deer with my WASR in Ohio, I'd seriously consider it, its ballistically about the same as my .30-30 (which I also can't use).

This congresswoman needs to go read the FBI UCR data, and she would see that the previous AWB had no real effect on homicide and other violent crime rates.

February 15th, 2007, 10:54 AM	#21
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 10,071	I have spent almost all of my adult life in the military and as an LEO. I can say without a doubt that far more than the majority of us would not do this, and in fact would be more likely to defend the 2a. This goes for the ground pounders on up the food chain. I am sure there would be a number that would be willing to go door to door, but the other half would take care of that pretty quickly if it came down to it. The worse thing the commi's in D.C. could do is to squeeze out ammo and parts. Ray Nagin... I welcome that worthless pinko to come on over... __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

February 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM	#23
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 10,071	Yes, but the elected forget that. __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

February 15th, 2007, 12:16 PM	#25
cphilip Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,386	http://carolynmccarthy.house.gov/ind...k=b&ItemID=675 Here she goes. Even exagerates the numbers. __________________ www.cphilip.com

February 15th, 2007, 02:47 PM	#28
SammyIamToday VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lexington, KY Posts: 2,077	Eh, I wouldn't say it's the end just yet. Just some bimbo in NY introducing a stupid bill. No cosponsors yet, and it's still in committee where it's likely to die. Granted it might not, and I will be contacting my representatives about it, but I don't think it's quite the end just yet. __________________ ...He suggested that "every American citizen" should own a rifle and train with it on firing ranges "at every courthouse." -Chesty Puller

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February 15th, 2007, 11:08 AM	#22
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 5,793	Correct me of course if I'm wrong, but isn't "protect/defend" the Consitution in the swearing in for the military?