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Old May 2nd, 2007, 09:06 AM   #1
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US S.1237 would let the AG block firearms purchases without due process

http://www.saf.org/viewpr-new.asp?id=223

BELLEVUE, WA – Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’ troubling support of legislation that would allow him and future attorneys general the arbitrary power to block firearms purchases without due process is cause for him to step down as the nation’s highest ranking law enforcement officer, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

The bill, S. 1237, was introduced last week at the Justice Department’s request by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), one of the most extreme anti-gunners in Congress. Called the “Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2007,” this legislation would give the Attorney General discretionary authority to deny the purchase of a firearm or the issuance of a firearm license or permit because of some vague suspicion that an American citizen may be up to no good.

“This bill,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb, “raises serious concerns about how someone becomes a ‘suspected terrorist.’ Nobody has explained how one gets their name on such a list, and worse, nobody knows how to get one’s name off such a list.

“The process by which someone may appeal the Attorney General’s arbitrary denial seems weak at best,” Gottlieb suggested, “and there is a greater concern. When did we decide as a nation that it is a good idea to give a cabinet member the power to deny someone’s constitutional right simply on suspicion, without a trial or anything approaching due process?

“We’re not surprised that General Gonzales has found an agreeable sponsor in Frank Lautenberg,” Gottlieb observed. “The senator from New Jersey has never seen a restrictive gun control scheme he did not immediately embrace, and S. 1237 is loaded with red flags. It would allow an appointed bureaucrat the authority to suspend or cancel someone’s Second Amendment right without even being charged with a crime.

“Attorney General Gonzales has no business asking for that kind of power over any tenet in the Bill of Rights,” Gottlieb said. “He took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not trample it. Perhaps it is time for him to go.”
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Old May 2nd, 2007, 03:45 PM   #2
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right. constitutionality be damned. it's just an old piece of paper, anyway, right?
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Very, very bad...I guess the Fourteenth Amendment means less and less these days...but we may have already known that.

And if only the provision of due process was included....would it be any less effective? Is the concern somehow that intelligence gathering methods are compromised? Would it kill us to do things under rule of law???
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Now adays if its not PC then it can be changed, anyway the more in-lightened Lib wishes. Weuns are to stupid to know whats good fur us.
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Exclamation

For the Bill's text go here:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c110GOTkws::

Current status: (http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:s.01237:)
S.1237

Title: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.

Sponsor: Sen Lautenberg, Frank R. [NJ] (introduced 4/26/2007) Cosponsors (7)

Latest Major Action: 4/26/2007 Referred to Senate committee.

Status: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
Let our representatives know how we feel about this bill (use Congress' Messaging Service):

http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm

(A simple "Hey you, this is me, oppose this bill, thank you" will do it).

Also, send a quick note to the Committee's President and any members of the committee who are also your state's senator:

http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm (click on the link of your state's senator, then find the "contact senator..." link for the Congress' messaging service)

There are no hearings for this bill at this time (http://judiciary.senate.gov/schedule_all.cfm)

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