Response from MI rep about eliminating no carry zones

Cupcake · May 27th, 2007, 10:01 PM

email my buddy sent:

Quote:

May 19, 2007

Dear Mr. Vagnozzi:
I am writing you today to ask you to support the Bill that is trying to eliminate areas in Michigan where solid citizens with concealed pistol licenses are not welcome. The Bill is number 4759. Please remember that legal holders have jumped through many tight hoops to obtain their licenses. They simply just do not turn from good members of society to criminals because of a holster and pistol.
Please consider this and support Bill 4759. Thank you very much.

Respectfully,

John Doe,
Farmington Hills, MI

Response:

Quote:

May 21, 2007

Dear Mr. Doe:

Thank you for taking the time to write me.

I will not support an expansion of the Concealed Weapons Law. We have too many guns available now which have resulted in the increase of shootings.

Sincerely,

Aldo Vagnozzi
State Representative
37th District

Anyone aware of the birth of MI's "shall issue" law correlating to an increase in shootings? Time for more emails?

P95Carry · May 27th, 2007, 10:05 PM

Quote:

We have too many guns available now which have resulted in the increase of shootings.

He failed to qualify that by adding the word ''criminal's" (guns) - and so obviously, like so many, fails to differentiate beteen gun owners at all.

How closed minded and typical.

Bud White · May 27th, 2007, 10:23 PM

typical loser make sure to email back thats fine i will not vote for you in the next election either

obxned · May 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM

Totally clueless!!!

Captain Crunch · May 28th, 2007, 01:52 AM

Don't waste your time trying to change this guy's mind or enlist his support for the cause. You're fighting a losing battle. His mind is made up, regardless of the facts.

Better to support his opponent in the next election and kick the Honorable Mr. Vagnozzi out of the Legislature.

Pitmaster · May 28th, 2007, 02:38 AM

Actually, a better suggestion might be to thank him for his response, politely state that you are referring to law abiding citizens using guns for self-defense and then provide the link to the Ohio (?) representative who was in favor of gun control but has changed his mind since being robbed at gunpoint. If he reads the link you have politely planted seed that may germinate in the future. Don't send a link to the thread on this site, but the actual news link of the story about the change of mind.

goawayfarm · May 28th, 2007, 06:38 AM

Afraid his a lost cause. He equates guns to crime, completely ignoring the fact that a BG has to be the one behind the trigger.

retsupt99 · May 28th, 2007, 09:25 AM

An IDIOT...

To argue with or present facts is useless...VOTE!

Does this guy represent a college town area? Just a guess!

OMO

ret

Cupcake · May 28th, 2007, 10:51 AM

I suppose you guys are right. Fighting this guy is a waste of energy. He certainly will be notified of his loss of votes. He also might get the link to the "robbed Rep" story.

incredipete · May 28th, 2007, 12:08 PM

I got a similar response on a letter from a Kansas rep. The response I got was very sarcastic and rude. The guy was a Republican. I forwarded his letter and a very passionate plea to the chairman of the Kansas Republican party, and he's looking for someone else to run in the primary.

May 27th, 2007, 11:33 PM	#4
obxned Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 1,748	Totally clueless!!! __________________ http://www.obxammo.com/ There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion. When governments make laws, they must consider the unintended consequences.

May 28th, 2007, 01:52 AM	#5
Captain Crunch Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montana, The Treasure State Posts: 6,765	Don't waste your time trying to change this guy's mind or enlist his support for the cause. You're fighting a losing battle. His mind is made up, regardless of the facts. Better to support his opponent in the next election and kick the Honorable Mr. Vagnozzi out of the Legislature. __________________ Memo to the President: I'll keep my guns, money & freedom... You can keep the "change!" Terry

May 28th, 2007, 02:38 AM	#6
Pitmaster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Wherever there's fried chicken or barbecue Posts: 630	Actually, a better suggestion might be to thank him for his response, politely state that you are referring to law abiding citizens using guns for self-defense and then provide the link to the Ohio (?) representative who was in favor of gun control but has changed his mind since being robbed at gunpoint. If he reads the link you have politely planted seed that may germinate in the future. Don't send a link to the thread on this site, but the actual news link of the story about the change of mind. __________________ Pitmaster HELGA: Where are you going? HAGAR: To sign a peace treaty with the King of England. HELGA: Then why take all those weapons? HAGAR: First we gotta negotiate...

May 28th, 2007, 06:38 AM	#7
goawayfarm VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fork Union, Virginia Posts: 2,003	Afraid his a lost cause. He equates guns to crime, completely ignoring the fact that a BG has to be the one behind the trigger. __________________ Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. "If you carry a gun, people will call you paranoid. If I have a gun, what do I have to be paranoid about?" -Clint Smith "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." -Jeff Cooper

May 28th, 2007, 09:25 AM	#8
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 14,907	An IDIOT... To argue with or present facts is useless...VOTE! Does this guy represent a college town area? Just a guess! OMO ret __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

May 27th, 2007, 10:23 PM	#3
Bud White VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Elsewhere Posts: 17,476	typical loser make sure to email back thats fine i will not vote for you in the next election either

May 28th, 2007, 10:51 AM	#9
Cupcake VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Michigan Posts: 2,660	I suppose you guys are right. Fighting this guy is a waste of energy. He certainly will be notified of his loss of votes. He also might get the link to the "robbed Rep" story. __________________ Stupidity is not a crime...so you are free to go.

May 28th, 2007, 12:08 PM	#10
incredipete Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 644	I got a similar response on a letter from a Kansas rep. The response I got was very sarcastic and rude. The guy was a Republican. I forwarded his letter and a very passionate plea to the chairman of the Kansas Republican party, and he's looking for someone else to run in the primary. __________________ Gun Control means never having to say "I missed you." - Glock 27 (.40) - Kel-Tec p3at (.380) - Beretta 96FS (.40) - Smith & Wesson 5906 (9mm)

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