California Ammo Ban

Bumper · June 19th, 2005, 06:07 AM

The next stop for SB 357, the bill to require serial numbers on all handgun cartridges -- including rimfire ammo -- is the Assembly's Public Safety Committee Tuesday, June 21. The Sporting Arms and Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI), Web site has information Californians can use in writing letters or making phone calls to their legislators requesting a vote against this bill. If passed, it will create a de facto ban on ammunition in the state by requirements to individually mark bullets that no manufacturer can cost-effectively meet, raising the price of ammo from pennies to dollars a round.

Prospector · June 19th, 2005, 09:31 AM

Gee, with Californian Democrats, who needs enemies! :chairshot

FortyFive · June 19th, 2005, 10:47 AM

Oh these bans will only be for the little people of California, Law Enforcement and the movie people won't have to pay attention to this stuff. The Mexicans, BG's from south of the border and gangs won't have to worry about this and perhaps even the politicians and their family members will have a special out on this requirement. How will we get serial numbers on pellets of shotgun ammo, oh better write them today in case they forgot this point.

CombatEffective · June 19th, 2005, 11:07 AM

Hopefully Ahnold would veto this one, but he didn't veto their .50 cal law.

QKShooter · June 19th, 2005, 11:08 AM

With Cawl~Lee~Forn~EE~AH REPUBLICANS...who need enemies?
Where is AhhhNold The Wimp TERMINATOR?

The CLOSET KENNEDY in pumped up sheeps clothing?

The Tourist · June 19th, 2005, 11:34 AM

This is another good reason to handload. In fact, casting your own bullets might be better.

At the sporting goods store where I set up, one of the shotgun guys told me we are down to just a few boxes (of 1,000 each) 209 shotgun primers--and he doesn't know when a replcement shipment is scheduled. Our neighboring store in the chain are now doing inventory and cannot transfer products.

Back when my friends and I were 'paranoid' we stocked up. I haven't bought components in five years. I'm down to a few thousand .22LR's, but in my neck of the woods there's plenty.

Wisconsin is a strange state. By the square mile, we are predominently conservative hunters, fishermen and bikers. The capitol of Madison is run by liberals who think the Vietnam War is still going on.

What troubles me about silly liberal end-runs on firearms in California is that it might spur the liberals to try it in my state. We have already had two attempts by the university folks to define and enforce hate speech. Both attempts were shot down, for now.

I believe that they wil try anything. For example, we are not as yet restricted on how much 'metal slag' can be set out for public garbage pick-up. I heard rumors of 20 pounds per year coming up as an 'environmental issue.' Strangely, an 'environmental issue' also came up about target ranges and ground water.

I immediately smelted most of my lino into 'pure' ignot bars. No slag is then produced during casting. This won't do much good if ranges are closed.

We already have strict air quality codes for indoor ranges.

armoredman · June 19th, 2005, 11:38 AM

I did hear this ammo marking bill does NOT exempt LEO. Wouldn't matter, if the ammo companies actually stood up and refused to sell to Cali. Hear us, Reminton, Winchester, Federal, CCI, etc??

rstickle · June 19th, 2005, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bumper

If passed, it will create a de facto ban on ammunition in the state by requirements to individually mark bullets that no manufacturer can cost-effectively meet, raising the price of ammo from pennies to dollars a round.

It sure would! I think the only way to put numbers on fairly quickly would be to laser them on.

When New York (?) and Maryland put the internal lock law into effect most handgun companies just stopped shipping into the two states, including Berretta..... Which has their factory in Maryland!

Fjolnirsson · June 19th, 2005, 11:49 AM

Quote:

This is another good reason to handload. In fact, casting your own bullets might be better.

They have that covered. After a certain date(2007, IIRC) possesion of non serialized ammo is a felony. So, even if you handload, the cartridges must be marked.

The Tourist · June 19th, 2005, 11:56 AM

Does the bill have traction? Do you think it will get out committee for a vote?

With Arnold's past performance, would he veto it?

June 19th, 2005, 06:07 AM	#1
Bumper Administrator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 14,226	California Ammo Ban The next stop for SB 357, the bill to require serial numbers on all handgun cartridges -- including rimfire ammo -- is the Assembly's Public Safety Committee Tuesday, June 21. The Sporting Arms and Manufacturers' Institute (SAAMI), Web site has information Californians can use in writing letters or making phone calls to their legislators requesting a vote against this bill. If passed, it will create a de facto ban on ammunition in the state by requirements to individually mark bullets that no manufacturer can cost-effectively meet, raising the price of ammo from pennies to dollars a round. __________________ Bumper Administrator DefensiveCarry.com Forum Coimhéad fearg fhear na foighde; Beware the anger of a patient man.

June 19th, 2005, 09:31 AM	#2
Prospector Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 615	Gee, with Californian Democrats, who needs enemies! :chairshot __________________ "*Endeavor To Persevere*" Chief Dan George

June 19th, 2005, 10:47 AM	#3
FortyFive Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 868	Oh these bans will only be for the little people of California, Law Enforcement and the movie people won't have to pay attention to this stuff. The Mexicans, BG's from south of the border and gangs won't have to worry about this and perhaps even the politicians and their family members will have a special out on this requirement. How will we get serial numbers on pellets of shotgun ammo, oh better write them today in case they forgot this point. __________________ As you slide down the banister of life, May the splinters never point the wrong way. --- NRA Life Member

June 19th, 2005, 11:07 AM	#4
CombatEffective Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,000	Hopefully Ahnold would veto this one, but he didn't veto their .50 cal law. __________________ Shooters' Legacy Special sections for S&W and Ruger

June 19th, 2005, 11:08 AM	#5
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,972	Gee Prospector With Cawl~Lee~Forn~EE~AH REPUBLICANS...who need enemies? Where is AhhhNold The Wimp TERMINATOR? The CLOSET KENNEDY in pumped up sheeps clothing? __________________

June 19th, 2005, 11:34 AM	#6
The Tourist Former Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 693	This is another good reason to handload. In fact, casting your own bullets might be better. At the sporting goods store where I set up, one of the shotgun guys told me we are down to just a few boxes (of 1,000 each) 209 shotgun primers--and he doesn't know when a replcement shipment is scheduled. Our neighboring store in the chain are now doing inventory and cannot transfer products. Back when my friends and I were 'paranoid' we stocked up. I haven't bought components in five years. I'm down to a few thousand .22LR's, but in my neck of the woods there's plenty. Wisconsin is a strange state. By the square mile, we are predominently conservative hunters, fishermen and bikers. The capitol of Madison is run by liberals who think the Vietnam War is still going on. What troubles me about silly liberal end-runs on firearms in California is that it might spur the liberals to try it in my state. We have already had two attempts by the university folks to define and enforce hate speech. Both attempts were shot down, for now. I believe that they wil try anything. For example, we are not as yet restricted on how much 'metal slag' can be set out for public garbage pick-up. I heard rumors of 20 pounds per year coming up as an 'environmental issue.' Strangely, an 'environmental issue' also came up about target ranges and ground water. I immediately smelted most of my lino into 'pure' ignot bars. No slag is then produced during casting. This won't do much good if ranges are closed. We already have strict air quality codes for indoor ranges.

June 19th, 2005, 11:38 AM	#7
armoredman Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AZ Posts: 484	I did hear this ammo marking bill does NOT exempt LEO. Wouldn't matter, if the ammo companies actually stood up and refused to sell to Cali. Hear us, Reminton, Winchester, Federal, CCI, etc?? __________________ If total government control equals safety, why are prisons so dangerous?

June 19th, 2005, 11:56 AM	#10
The Tourist Former Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 693	Does the bill have traction? Do you think it will get out committee for a vote? With Arnold's past performance, would he veto it?

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