DC Gun Ban poll on NBC4: merged - Page 4

SIGguy229 · November 21st, 2007, 09:47 AM

Uphold 424 10%
Overturn 3914 90%

arniejen · November 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM

Just voted -- still running 90% in favor of overturning the DC gun ban.

obxned · November 21st, 2007, 11:51 AM

... and that is the last we will ever see or hear of that survey. Had it been in favor of gun control, it would be today's headline.

LoneRanger · November 21st, 2007, 02:06 PM

4833 (overturn) to 552 uphold. Good work.

SIGguy229 · November 21st, 2007, 03:25 PM

Uphold 587 10%
Overturn 5064 90%

gopher · November 22nd, 2007, 08:43 AM

LOL
voted
6733= overturn
729

JEC · November 22nd, 2007, 10:45 AM

Cast my vote.

Quote:

Would you like to see the Supreme Court uphold or overturn D.C.'s gun ban?
Choice Votes Percentage of 7560 Votes
Uphold 738 10%
Overturn 6822 90%

Found this article interesting. The writer seems to think it could come down to punctuation.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...supreme_c.html

Jack

peacefuljeffrey · November 22nd, 2007, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich

Thanks for the heads-up. It's a dangerously worded poll, BTW, for anyone who knows the posture of the case: it asks if the SCt should uphold or overturn the DC gun ban. Of course, the DC Cir. has already overturned the gun ban; the Q before the SCt is whether to uphold or overturn the DC Cir's ruling.

Anyway, be careful how you answer.

Yeah, I noticed it was a bit iffy... but the poll question should be answered "Yes" if you want the ban done away with. The question is worded so as to sort of ignore the fact that the ban has already been struck down. This question is not, "Should the SCOTUS strike down the lower court's decision" (the answer would be NO), but "Should they strike down (redundantly) the ban itself." The answer to that one, of course, is obvious.

peacefuljeffrey · November 22nd, 2007, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEC

Cast my vote.

Found this article interesting. The writer seems to think it could come down to punctuation.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news...supreme_c.html

Jack

I think that writer is out of his mind.
It's clearly not the commas that create the ambiguity; it's the inclusion of the first (two) clause(s) in the first place. And anyone with any kind of reasonable understanding of grammar knows that the first part of the 2nd Amendment (the "preamble") is just explanatory, and offers the reason for the importance of not infringing on THE PEOPLE's right to keep and bear arms.

For the life of me I can't figure out why this guy is saying that it comes down to the commas, and not to "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state."

This guy is off the mark.

P7fanatic · November 22nd, 2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erich

Thanks for the heads-up. It's a dangerously worded poll, BTW, for anyone who knows the posture of the case: it asks if the SCt should uphold or overturn the DC gun ban. Of course, the DC Cir. has already overturned the gun ban; the Q before the SCt is whether to uphold or overturn the DC Cir's ruling.

Anyway, be careful how you answer.

How true. You have to wonder if it was out stupidity that the poll question was worded that way or if it is a trick. Problem is a lot of people will not rationalize their answer. Bad poll.

November 21st, 2007, 09:47 AM	#31
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November 21st, 2007, 10:17 AM	#32
arniejen Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Missouri Posts: 31	Just voted -- still running 90% in favor of overturning the DC gun ban. __________________ "The world is a dangerous place — not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." — Albert Einstein

November 21st, 2007, 11:51 AM	#33
obxned Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 1,748	... and that is the last we will ever see or hear of that survey. Had it been in favor of gun control, it would be today's headline. __________________ http://www.obxammo.com/ There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion. When governments make laws, they must consider the unintended consequences.

November 21st, 2007, 02:06 PM	#34
LoneRanger Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 147	4833 (overturn) to 552 uphold. Good work. __________________ "You gonna do something about it or just stand there and bleed?" -Wyatt Earp

November 21st, 2007, 03:25 PM	#35
SIGguy229 VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,003	Uphold 587 10% Overturn 5064 90% __________________ Patriotic dissent is a luxury of those protected by better men than they Sacrifice: Congress thinks having to stay late to vote is sacrifice. Ask the Sailor, Soldier, Airman, or Marine meeting his child for the first time what sacrifice means martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter

November 22nd, 2007, 08:43 AM	#36
gopher Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Carolina Posts: 125	LOL voted 6733= overturn 729 __________________ When outnumbered 2 to 1. Shoot twice! Gopher

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