More Insanity In Oakland, CA.

Captain Crunch · February 24th, 2008, 03:54 PM

The Oakland, CA city council is asking the PD to draft a plan for "voluntary" residential searches for illegal guns.

From the Oakland Tribune:

Council asks police to draft gun-search plan - Inside Bay Area

swiftyjuan · February 24th, 2008, 04:05 PM

I can't believe St. Louis and Boston beat Oakland to it! Oakland is a bad town, and I refused a great job because it was in Oakland. All of the apartment ads contained wording such as "high security, and protected parking",not something you see in every ad in most cities. Their solution is ridiculous, but it is in the Bay Area, where logic is illegal.

ccw9mm · February 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM

Searches may already be done ... with cause, and with a judge's review and signing of a warrant. That guards against much of the abuse, since it demands that the searches pass muster with a second, disinterested party.

This, however, smacks of third-world totalitarianism. Katrina-level catastrophe, indeed, though in a way starkly different than suggested in the article.

P95Carry · February 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM

Why is it I get spells of near abject depression these days? ....... because of this kinda stuff that I read or hear about.

I keep wondering too about ''oaths of office'' - seems the constitution is being buried time and time again.

StevePVB · February 24th, 2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ccw9mm

Searches may already be done ... with cause, and with a judge's review and signing of a warrant. That guards against much of the abuse, since it demands that the searches pass muster with a second, disinterested party.

This, however, smacks of third-world totalitarianism. Katrina-level catastrophe, indeed, though in a way starkly different than suggested in the article.

I'm sure glad I don't live there. But....I wonder how much "cause" a CA judge would need to sign a warrant?

stanislaskasava · February 24th, 2008, 05:02 PM

This looks like another case of government trying to do something that parents should be doing...

Ram Rod · February 24th, 2008, 05:29 PM

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but it is in the Bay Area, where logic is illegal.

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Why is it I get spells of near abject depression these days? ....... because of this kinda stuff that I read or hear about.

No way. Is that possible? Volunteers? If they don't get volunteers---what then?

OPFOR · February 24th, 2008, 05:38 PM

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"The leading cause of death in these homicides is guns," she said.

Well, heck, if Oakland has all these guns running around killing people all by themselves, they should be out there searching for them! We can't have sentient, murderous hunks of wood, metal and plastic out there killing whomever they want!

Seriously, these are searches WITH CONSENT, nothing new there. Don't want to be searched? Say no. End of story. (Of course, the potential for abuse exists, but that potential always exists. In Boston, the city had a huge PR program to inform people of their rights before the police went knocking - I will give Oakland the benefit of the doubt and assume that they will do something similar. As long as it is done legally - both within the letter and the spirit of the 4th Amendment - I don't see a problem with these "knock and ask" searches.)

Ridgeline · February 24th, 2008, 06:45 PM

God, I'm so glad i live in Texas...

Cops - Can we search your house?
BG's - No,I don't think so!
Cops - Ok, thanks for your time, sorry to bother you!
BG's - <smirk, laugh>

Rossman · February 24th, 2008, 06:54 PM

Pass the Patriot Act! Look for the Bad Guys and Kill 'em whenever necessary.

February 24th, 2008, 03:54 PM	#1
Captain Crunch Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Montana, The Treasure State Posts: 7,111	More Insanity In Oakland, CA. The Oakland, CA city council is asking the PD to draft a plan for "voluntary" residential searches for illegal guns. From the Oakland Tribune: Council asks police to draft gun-search plan - Inside Bay Area __________________ Memo to the President: I'll keep my guns, money & freedom... You can keep the "change!" Terry

February 24th, 2008, 04:05 PM	#2
swiftyjuan VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madera, CA Posts: 2,073	I can't believe St. Louis and Boston beat Oakland to it! Oakland is a bad town, and I refused a great job because it was in Oakland. All of the apartment ads contained wording such as "high security, and protected parking",not something you see in every ad in most cities. Their solution is ridiculous, but it is in the Bay Area, where logic is illegal. __________________ John Assault is a behavior, not a device. "Don't never take no shortcuts." Patty Reed, Donner Party Lifetime NRA member

February 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM	#3
ccw9mm VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 6,192	Searches may already be done ... with cause, and with a judge's review and signing of a warrant. That guards against much of the abuse, since it demands that the searches pass muster with a second, disinterested party. This, however, smacks of third-world totalitarianism. Katrina-level catastrophe, indeed, though in a way starkly different than suggested in the article. __________________ Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims? Tip: Use the <search> feature.

February 24th, 2008, 04:06 PM	#4
P95Carry Assistant Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: South West PA Posts: 25,400	Why is it I get spells of near abject depression these days? ....... because of this kinda stuff that I read or hear about. I keep wondering too about ''oaths of office'' - seems the constitution is being buried time and time again. __________________ Chris - P95 NRA Certified Instructor & NRA Life Member. "To own a gun and assume that you are armed is like owning a piano and assuming that you are a musician!." If a BG dies as the result of pointing a gun at me, then he has merely succumbed to an occupational hazard of being a thug

February 24th, 2008, 06:45 PM	#9
Ridgeline Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,457	God, I'm so glad i live in Texas... Cops - Can we search your house? BG's - No,I don't think so! Cops - Ok, thanks for your time, sorry to bother you! BG's - <smirk, laugh> __________________ "Eternity is Too Long to be Wrong" Texas CHL Instructor & Holder Life Member NRA Member TSRA

February 24th, 2008, 05:02 PM	#6
stanislaskasava Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: U.S. Posts: 520	This looks like another case of government trying to do something that parents should be doing...

February 24th, 2008, 06:54 PM	#10
Rossman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bass Lake, CA Posts: 520	Pass the Patriot Act! Look for the Bad Guys and Kill 'em whenever necessary. __________________ Rossman Colt 1911, XD 40, http://www.newsbusters.org/ http://www.soliersangels.org/

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