DC vs. Heller:ALL Related Discussion: VICTORY! Merged - Page 48

retsupt99 · June 26th, 2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lensgrinder

A GREAT DAY FOR LIBERTY!!!!
Has anybody thought about the hornets nest that was just thrown into the UN?
I guess a "Treaty" that would disarm WE THE PEOPLE won't clear this hurdle!!

I have been thinking about this...it's also an important point to ponder!

Stay armed...NO TREATIES...stay safe!

Anubis · June 26th, 2008, 07:43 PM

The DC Circuit court voted 2-1, and the Supremes voted 5-4 on Heller.

I'll never again think that a single vote is insignificant.

Guvn3r · June 26th, 2008, 07:48 PM

June 26th, 2008, indeed a great day for liberty! I celebrated with 200 rounds of 9mm at my local range....

mrreynolds · June 26th, 2008, 08:02 PM

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Rep. Carolyn McCarthy Statement on the US Supreme Court’s Ruling on Washington D.C.’s Gun Ban

The following is a statement from Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy in reaction to the United State Supreme Court’s Ruling on the District of Columbia v. Heller:

“Although I am disappointed in today’s decision to strike down the Washington D.C. gun ban, I am heartened by the Court’s acknowledgment of the right of legislative bodies to create sensible gun laws. This ruling now paves the way for Congress to move forward on passing the kind of laws that will protect our communities.

“Today’s Supreme Court decision is the first major ruling on gun ownership by the Supreme Court since 1939. The Court has set an important precedent with its ruling today that will no doubt allow for the creation of future laws intended to stem gun violence. I signed a brief in support of the law and I know how much communities throughout the country are struggling to reduce gun violence.

“In the District of Columbia v. Heller, the court examined whether Washington D.C.’s 1976 ban on handgun possession at home, and requirement that all guns—including rifles and shotguns—be kept disassembled, was constitutional.

“It should be noted that the Washington D.C. gun ban was among the toughest in the nation. But, I strongly believe that lawmakers need to have the freedom to create legislation that protects communities, without violating people’s individual rights.

“In their decision, the Justices said that the 2nd amendment gives individuals the right to own guns, but that communities have the right to make laws that create reasonable gun laws.

“Specifically, the court ruled that the Second Amendment right is ‘Not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.’

“Also, signaling that this ruling is not a move in the direction of disavowing all limitations on gun ownership, the Court also said that the Second Amendment right is ‘not unlimited.’

“Of note, the Court maintained that this ruling is not intended to overturn any significant precedents set by previous decisions when it said, ‘[the Court’s] opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.’

“That is why I have been working so hard to keep guns out of the hands of those people who could potentially do the most harm, such as when Congress passed my bill the NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007. That law makes it harder for criminals and the mentally ill to gain access to guns.

“The NICS Improvement Amendment Act of 2007 needs to be fully funded in order to keep our communities safe. We also need to put more cops on the streets and increase funding for the Community Oriented Policing Programs Services (COPS) program.

“While I have consistently supported the right of gun ownership, it is crucial that government has the ability to create common sense gun laws. We have an obligation to keep our communities safer from gun violence.

“Since the Court’s decision today leans toward an individual right to gun ownership and does not suggest that the Second Amendment is strictly intended for the establishment of militia, as lawmakers, this interpretation allows us to create common sense gun laws that do not hinder the right to gun ownership, but keep guns out of the wrong hands and keep communities and individuals safe from gun violence.

“As the Justices said, ‘the Constitution leaves the District of Columbia a variety of tools for combating that problem; including some measures regulating handguns.’

“With that in mind I will continue to work toward pushing laws that stem gun violence and keep guns from those individuals who are likely to cause harm, as I have for the past 15 years.

“We can never stop all gun violence, but there is a lot that we can do to keep our communities safer. Now is the time to roll up our sleeves and get to work on passing sensible gun laws that protect Americans, but not threaten the ability of law-abiding citizens to own guns.”

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Pitmaster · June 26th, 2008, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04

WHY DO I HEAR THE SONG...WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS IN MY HEAD!!!!!!

I learned of the ruling from the G. Gordon Liddy show. He immediately started playing "Celebrate Good Times" by Kool and the Gang and continued it throughout the show.

deadeye72 · June 26th, 2008, 08:14 PM

The only thing I hate is that the late great Charlton Heston was not here to celebrate this victory with us.

HotGuns · June 26th, 2008, 08:17 PM

What I hate is the fact the 4 out of 5 Justices voted against it.

Thank God that this was done before Obama got in office.

InspectorGadget · June 26th, 2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by deadeye72

The only thing I hate is that the late great Charlton Heston was not here to celebrate this victory with us.

I am comfortable the Mr Heston knows and is smiling down in us right now. Here is a drink to you Mr. Heston

QKShooter · June 26th, 2008, 08:43 PM

Sincerely,

Sarah Brady, Chair

...and I'll just bet she didn't much feel like getting out of that chair today either.

She is probably getting dizzy every time she stands up.

SixBravo · June 26th, 2008, 08:44 PM

Well first off..

"Happy Heller Day!!" to everyone.

But on to business.

One poster mentioned that communities will try and rip apart 'Keep and Bear arms.' I'm not sure how. In the first 20 pages, Scalia enumerates exactly what everything in the 2nd Amendment means. He SPECIFICALLY addresses this part of it and, IIRC, he actually called the attempt to separate it 'akin to the an attempt by the Mad Hatter.'

For those screaming that it's good but still awful... go back and read more than the first five pages. I got nervous when I read that part but if you continue on it gets good. Especially the part where Scalia says that bearing arms refers to the ability to lawfully carry. Granted, he does say that the court supports some restrictions but really... The fact that they said very clearly that handguns are legal to own means that, IMO, our carry pieces are safe and our other goodies are tucked away safely behind this ruling.

Could it be bad? Sure. I'm not a lawyer. I couldn't even BEGIN to speculate at the long-term effect of this ruling. But for now I'm seeing this as a reason to celebrate. Bust out the whiskey!

June 26th, 2008, 07:43 PM	#472
Anubis Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arapahoe County CO Posts: 940	individual votes count!! The DC Circuit court voted 2-1, and the Supremes voted 5-4 on Heller. I'll never again think that a single vote is insignificant. __________________ Send lawyers, Glocks, and money!

June 26th, 2008, 07:48 PM	#473
Guvn3r Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida/NC Posts: 27	June 26th, 2008, indeed a great day for liberty! I celebrated with 200 rounds of 9mm at my local range.... __________________ "...The most common manifestation of hoplophobia is the idea that instruments possess a will of their own, apart from that of their user." - Col. Cooper

June 26th, 2008, 08:14 PM	#476
deadeye72 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Central Mississippi Posts: 2,502	The only thing I hate is that the late great Charlton Heston was not here to celebrate this victory with us. __________________ HK P2000 .40 BENELLI NOVA

June 26th, 2008, 08:17 PM	#477
HotGuns Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,160	What I hate is the fact the 4 out of 5 Justices voted against it. Thank God that this was done before Obama got in office. __________________ AR. CHL Instr. To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas.' Dr. G. Brock Chisolm

June 26th, 2008, 08:43 PM	#479
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,972	Sincerely, Sarah Brady, Chair ...and I'll just bet she didn't much feel like getting out of that chair today either. She is probably getting dizzy every time she stands up. __________________

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