imatt

That quote contradicts their own case, does it not?

(quote didn't quote)

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ccw9mm

Hm. Since the defense is admitting having no problem with having a loaded weapon, a ready weapon, for use in self-defense, then they should have no problem with having the unconstitutionality of a ban recognized and the D.C. law struck down permanently.

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Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
US v Emerson, 2001: The 2A protects the individual RTKBA,
regardless if serving in a militia or military.

nutz4utwo

I am scratching my own head on that one too...You are allowed to have a gun for when you are actually being attacked, but we can arrest you if you have it and aren't being beaten. I suppose we can arrest you once you are through being beaten as well....?

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edr9x23super

I was lucky enough (due to my recent neck injury) to have listened to the opening arguments in their entirety. My sister, who is an attorney is special legal counsel for the Democrat contingent of the ways and means committee was one of a handful of government lawyers allowed to sit in and hear the arguments in person. About 10 minutes after the arguments concluded she sent me a text on her blackberry, and I do quote:

"Congrats, dear brother. I think your side made the better argument today; I guess my husband will be getting his DC license to pack heat after all"

Her husband is a republican lobbyist who represents the NRA........

Talk about a match made in heaven....

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Redneck Repairs

far beyond what was argued today .. IMHO no matter what the SCOUS decides on this case DC carry is years and thousands if not millions of dollars ( in legal costs ) away . This case will be a milestone case in deciding if the 2nd addresses an individual right or a collective right to have firearms and nothing really else . Just what firearms , and the meanings of " keep and bear " are subjects that will have to be judicially decided in other arguments . IMHO its likely the SCOUS will decide we have an individual right to " keep and bear arms " in accordance with the wording and intent of the 2nd . However they are not likely to address just with what or how we may excursive that right, leaving that for further court cases .

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lacrosse50

I forgot how much fun it was to listen to SCOTUS, no matter the topic. It's always interesting, and usually a little contentious, which makes it all the more fun!

I'm reading the transcript right now...

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RON PAUL - 2008

matiki

No, that's being taken out of context.

He was saying that you could unlock your weapon, or assemble it, and load it, at the time you need self defense. At no point did he argue against himself. He was attempting to persuade the justices into accepting their trigger lock or disassembly requirement as reasonable.

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ccw9mm

Transcript (PDF) and audio (RM) available here: click.

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Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it.
Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2.
Thoughts: Justifiable self defense.
US v Emerson, 2001: The 2A protects the individual RTKBA,
regardless if serving in a militia or military.

Redneck Repairs

Napalonatano ( sp ) was just on Fox news. In his opinion we won and handily. He came across to me as an advocate for our side tho so take its what its worth .

oral arguements at rtsp://video.c-span.org/archive/sc/sc031808_2amendment.rm 151.5 meg or so , Ill try and zip it up and re upload for folk without download managers that handle the protocol to save it ( assuming the server doesn't crash since it isn't streaming well and i suspect a lot of folk are trying to get it )

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Make sure you get full value out of today , Do something worthwhile, because what you do today will cost you one day off the rest of your life .
We only begin to understand folks after we stop and think .

Criminals are looking for victims, not opponents.

nutz4utwo

The disassembly and trigger lock questions are important, but also, the question is the issue of obtaining a license to legally posses a handgun in the district. Mr. Heller (and others) was denied a handgun license so he wouldn't even have access to a handgun even for those lawful purposes.

you can't unlock and load a weapon you don't have...

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