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Old October 3rd, 2005, 12:01 PM   #11
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Buzzg, very well put, you did it much better than I in explaining the true goal of the anti-gun or anti-freedom groups. The problem is our own people the gun organizations for the past 30 years took our money and did zero to further the gun cause, they built their organziation and touted we been doing this for 100 years plus. Doing what for 100 years plus. Now we the people are jammed with thoughts like well if you don't like your state move or vote at the polls etc. Sound bytes that sound good but are empty in substance.
Now we are paying and slip sliding backwards.
Foundations provide endless amounts of grants to organizations like the ACLU founded in the 1920's to go after Christens etc. thats why they can afford to take up the fight on most anything.
The people in America don't see the true loss coming, boy you are so right about tyranny.
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Old October 3rd, 2005, 12:29 PM   #12
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Positive spin...if they pass the ban, the crime will not go down and it becomes a model of what not to do.
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Old October 3rd, 2005, 12:57 PM   #13
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Positive spin? I would hope so, but the Brazilians apparently have not examined the result of the bans in the UK, and Australia. Their "leadership" however know what's going on. They just have a different agenda. I don't have statistics, but I would bet a rolling doughnut that a majority of their major crime is the direct result of the presence of the drug cartels. Why not go after them with the same zeal as they direct at the abolition of firearms ownership? It's too dangerous for one, and I'll roll another doughnut that most of the Brazilian elected/appointed officials are being given a lot of money to guarantee the safety and continued prosperity of the cartel leaders.
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Old October 3rd, 2005, 02:28 PM   #14
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I won't be surprised if the law passes. It's just another feel-good move that won't help. I sympathize for the Brazilians stuck down there who don't support this crazy legislation.

A disarmed populace is helpless against lawbreakers... and lawmakers.
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Old October 3rd, 2005, 02:40 PM   #15
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I wonder if all of those Brazilian 1911 Colts will make it up to the U.S.

Gee....I wonder how long it will take for the Brazilian thugs & drug dealers to revert back to hacking people up into bite~size little pieces with machetes again?
Weapon of choice is Chainsaw not as much work to hack them apart havent ya seen Scarface read a report once that they sold more chain saws in Flordia than in orgean logging country whats up with that
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