NRA membership? Why? - Page 3

Shotgun Willie · October 8th, 2005, 10:49 PM

I'm sure it works. I just don't like it. Not why I would join, but that is just me.

rocky · October 9th, 2005, 01:38 AM

I am a NRA member because I feel they are the best way to defend our 2nd ammend. rights. Also , they have sent lawyers in the defend legal gun owners in court. The NRA may not be perfet, but is (IMO) the best we have.

RSSZ · October 9th, 2005, 08:43 AM

air force shooter, I'm sorry sir that you feel that the NRA hasn't "done a thing to advance gun legislation". I will check into it further by talking to the people that I see at my hunting club,shooting range,S.H.O.T. show,and NRA convention, also at the gunshows that I attend(at least 10 per year)and if this is true, will not renew my membership.----------

TheGreatGonzo · October 9th, 2005, 09:16 AM

I'm also not a big fan of NRA. I feel they have gone "corporate" and they tend to act just like any other major company. I personally like GOA and, even though they are smaller, they have a good, grassroots, genuine feel to them. The passion still seems to be there (if that makes sense). I'm also a member of LEAA, which supports private gun ownership from the law enforcement side of the house.
Gonzo

buzzg · October 9th, 2005, 10:02 AM

One side benefit of NRA membership is the NRA endorsed property and casualty insurance program. For $250/year you can obtain Personal Liability and Self Defense Coverage. Personal Liability = $250,000 bodily injury/property damage coverage. Self Defense Coverage = $250,000 Civil Defense and Liability + $50,000 Criminal Defense Reinbursement. If you live in FL of course you won't be faced with a civil suit in a self defense shooting if there is no criminal prosecution. I've spoken with several attorneys and they advised me to get it. "A civil suit defense could cost you all you have and all you'll ever have. Even if you win." That's a quote from an attorney.
I agree with the consensus here. Join something and support the cause. I agree, the NRA is more compromise oriented than GOA and others. Picture it.
Where would we be today if they never existed? They are the "gun lobby" that Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer, Kennedy and their like despise. There is strength in numbers.

AirForceShooter · October 9th, 2005, 11:55 AM

RSSZ
I was making a distinction between the NRA and it's lobbying arm the ILA. If the NRA so much as called up a congressman, it's tax exemption would be at risk.

AFS

AutoFan · October 10th, 2005, 03:39 AM

I'm a member of the NRA, SAF and GOA, all on a yearly basis. That way I have the option of NOT funding them if they take a stance I disagree with. I also belong to the state organization. And I have contributed to the ILA.

Now let me get up on the soapbox and put on the Nomex.

The NRA does training well. Period.

It is my belief that the NRA/ILA, despite all the propaganda they put out, don't care about whatever guns are on the "fringe" (i.e. so-called "assault weapons) and willingly would sacrifice them rather than stand up for the 2nd Amendment in its' totality. The examples of this are the National Firearms Act (NFA), the Gun Control Act of 1968, the banning of manufacture of civilian "machine guns" in 1986, and the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) under the Clinton administration. All of those should have been challenged as far up the legal system as possible to get them ruled unconstitutional. And I saw it in their state rep for Illinois (who's office is in D.C.!) who told me over the phone in response to a particularly bad proposed gun grab bill to "not challenge the IL legislators by protesting because then they would not be able to back down from supporting the bill"!

I was very disturbed by the glowing articles about Bill Ruger after he contributed big bucks ($1 million, I think?).

If you want your money to go towards organizations that will protect your gun rights, contribute to the state organizations, the SAF and GOA.

I believe I speak for a majority of people that say to the NRA, "stop sending me all the unsolicited junk mail, telemarketing style phone calls, and useless hats for membership." Present your case for what you are doing with the money contributed and ask for funds in a respectable way.

Ok, I'm off the soapbox now.

AirForceShooter · November 1st, 2005, 11:05 AM

The GOA doesn't give you a thing when you pay for the basic membership.
I still pay.

AFS

raevan · November 2nd, 2005, 01:38 AM

I belong to NRA, SAF and LEAA. Personally I think each person has to decide for themselves. The more groups we have fighting for our rights the better.
But the most important thing is- VOTE!!! If all progun people voted we could get the anti gun people out of office.

buzzg · November 3rd, 2005, 09:42 AM

There are an estimated 20,000,000 firearms owners in the US, give or take. The NRA claims 4.3 million members. The math tells me that those of us who belong and are active in support of the 2nd Amendment, etc. are totin' the bale for all the other gun owners who enjoy the same freedoms (currently) that we do. The average number of CHL/CCW holders in the states that have Shall Issue laws is about 2%-3% of the total population. There's that disparity again. That means that 2%-3% of us are directly responsible for the reduced crime rates in those states. Isn't that the way it always seems to go? The few with determination and vision and the will to pursue their goals pass the benefit to those sitting on the back of their lap.
Carry on, gentlemen. We'll take care of you.

October 8th, 2005, 10:49 PM	#21
Shotgun Willie Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 158	I'm sure it works. I just don't like it. Not why I would join, but that is just me. __________________ Kurt - Shotgun Willie

October 9th, 2005, 09:16 AM	#24
TheGreatGonzo Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 422	I'm also not a big fan of NRA. I feel they have gone "corporate" and they tend to act just like any other major company. I personally like GOA and, even though they are smaller, they have a good, grassroots, genuine feel to them. The passion still seems to be there (if that makes sense). I'm also a member of LEAA, which supports private gun ownership from the law enforcement side of the house. Gonzo __________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to keep bad people from doing bad things to good people.

October 9th, 2005, 11:55 AM	#26
AirForceShooter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,152	RSSZ I was making a distinction between the NRA and it's lobbying arm the ILA. If the NRA so much as called up a congressman, it's tax exemption would be at risk. AFS __________________ Gun control is hitting what you aim at

November 1st, 2005, 11:05 AM	#28
AirForceShooter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central Florida Posts: 1,152	The GOA doesn't give you a thing when you pay for the basic membership. I still pay. AFS __________________ Gun control is hitting what you aim at

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October 9th, 2005, 01:38 AM	#22
rocky Senior Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: MI Posts: 11,750	I am a NRA member because I feel they are the best way to defend our 2nd ammend. rights. Also , they have sent lawyers in the defend legal gun owners in court. The NRA may not be perfet, but is (IMO) the best we have.

October 9th, 2005, 08:43 AM	#23
RSSZ Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Posts: 1,847	air force shooter, I'm sorry sir that you feel that the NRA hasn't "done a thing to advance gun legislation". I will check into it further by talking to the people that I see at my hunting club,shooting range,S.H.O.T. show,and NRA convention, also at the gunshows that I attend(at least 10 per year)and if this is true, will not renew my membership.----------

October 9th, 2005, 10:02 AM	#25
buzzg Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 132	One side benefit of NRA membership is the NRA endorsed property and casualty insurance program. For $250/year you can obtain Personal Liability and Self Defense Coverage. Personal Liability = $250,000 bodily injury/property damage coverage. Self Defense Coverage = $250,000 Civil Defense and Liability + $50,000 Criminal Defense Reinbursement. If you live in FL of course you won't be faced with a civil suit in a self defense shooting if there is no criminal prosecution. I've spoken with several attorneys and they advised me to get it. "A civil suit defense could cost you all you have and all you'll ever have. Even if you win." That's a quote from an attorney. I agree with the consensus here. Join something and support the cause. I agree, the NRA is more compromise oriented than GOA and others. Picture it. Where would we be today if they never existed? They are the "gun lobby" that Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer, Kennedy and their like despise. There is strength in numbers.

October 10th, 2005, 03:39 AM	#27
AutoFan Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 945	I'm a member of the NRA, SAF and GOA, all on a yearly basis. That way I have the option of NOT funding them if they take a stance I disagree with. I also belong to the state organization. And I have contributed to the ILA. Now let me get up on the soapbox and put on the Nomex. The NRA does training well. Period. It is my belief that the NRA/ILA, despite all the propaganda they put out, don't care about whatever guns are on the "fringe" (i.e. so-called "assault weapons) and willingly would sacrifice them rather than stand up for the 2nd Amendment in its' totality. The examples of this are the National Firearms Act (NFA), the Gun Control Act of 1968, the banning of manufacture of civilian "machine guns" in 1986, and the Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) under the Clinton administration. All of those should have been challenged as far up the legal system as possible to get them ruled unconstitutional. And I saw it in their state rep for Illinois (who's office is in D.C.!) who told me over the phone in response to a particularly bad proposed gun grab bill to "not challenge the IL legislators by protesting because then they would not be able to back down from supporting the bill"! I was very disturbed by the glowing articles about Bill Ruger after he contributed big bucks ($1 million, I think?). If you want your money to go towards organizations that will protect your gun rights, contribute to the state organizations, the SAF and GOA. I believe I speak for a majority of people that say to the NRA, "stop sending me all the unsolicited junk mail, telemarketing style phone calls, and useless hats for membership." Present your case for what you are doing with the money contributed and ask for funds in a respectable way. Ok, I'm off the soapbox now.

November 2nd, 2005, 01:38 AM	#29
raevan VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: washington Posts: 4,090	I belong to NRA, SAF and LEAA. Personally I think each person has to decide for themselves. The more groups we have fighting for our rights the better. But the most important thing is- VOTE!!! If all progun people voted we could get the anti gun people out of office.

November 3rd, 2005, 09:42 AM	#30
buzzg Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Grants Pass, OR Posts: 132	There are an estimated 20,000,000 firearms owners in the US, give or take. The NRA claims 4.3 million members. The math tells me that those of us who belong and are active in support of the 2nd Amendment, etc. are totin' the bale for all the other gun owners who enjoy the same freedoms (currently) that we do. The average number of CHL/CCW holders in the states that have Shall Issue laws is about 2%-3% of the total population. There's that disparity again. That means that 2%-3% of us are directly responsible for the reduced crime rates in those states. Isn't that the way it always seems to go? The few with determination and vision and the will to pursue their goals pass the benefit to those sitting on the back of their lap. Carry on, gentlemen. We'll take care of you.