MattLarson

I guess in retrospect, the Mexican government wasn't doing a very smart thing by publishing literature telling their citizens how to sneak across the US border.....

Matt

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retsupt99

Don't need to close the border...just close Mexico!

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Ron

I watched the story on ABC New last night, and my reaction is: if it is illegtal to own guns in Mexico, and guns are being smuggled across the border, how does it now bcome the responsibility of the US to police the border, given that ownership of guns in the US by law abiiding citizens is legal. Ir is cleaely the responsibiliry of the Mexican government to police their borders to prevent illegal items from entering their country, including guns.

But, that was not the thrust of the news report. Infuriating.

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MattLarson

Mexico wants the US to police the border to stop smuggling into Mexico, while simultaneously ignoring the outflow of illegals entering the US.

Makes perfect sense.

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rocky

I read as far as "high powered assault weapons" and quit. The media is so full of its own B.S. I don't watch the news anymore.

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libertarian5

Then the reverse should also be true. We should stop whining about the Mexican government's unwillingness to control the flow of it's own people around the border. Especially since we would be crying foul if our government tried to control our constitutionally protected rights to travel.

As someone who works and travels in Mexico quite often, I can assure you that the Mexican Federal Government is trying hard to stop the flow of drugs out, and guns in. It's entire future depends upon it. There is what amounts to a war going on down there between the drug cartels and the government. Many of the local police departments are corrupt and controlled by the cartels, who methodically kill anyone who resists. That is why the federal government there has been occupying many border cities and taking over the police departments. This has created a huge demand for weapons by the cartels, who openly recruit ex-military and others to join in a war with the government and other cartels. It is understandable that the Mexican government would like to see more gun control or a total ban in the USA. Really, it is not any different than the police thinking in some large US cities.

It IS illegal to haul drugs out of Mexico, and every northbound car, truck, semi, and bus heading towards the US is stopped and searched 4-6 times at roadblocks within 300 or so miles of the border. In contrast, we do nothing on this side to limit traffic going south.

agentmel

This whole issue confuses me. Do drug criminals mostly kill other criminals? If so, what's the problem?

The same as with the prohibition of alcohol, the only reason there is a problem with drug crime is that drugs are illegal. If drugs were de-illegalized most drug crime would completely disappear within probably less than a year. You never hear about employees of Budweiser perpetrating a drive-by on employees of Coors. Alcohol is probably more potentially dangerous than, say, pot is.

I would like to think that the members of this forum would realize the danger posed by government limiting the liberty of the people.

I seriously doubt it will happen, though. Not anytime soon.

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MattLarson

Then perhaps the Mexican Federal Government wasn't thinking too clearly when they published materials telling their citizens how to cross the border unlawfully with the lowest risks of getting caught....

The Graphic - Guide promotes illegal immigration

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Ron

I agree that it is our responsibility to police our borders. My point simply is that the fact that the Mexican government has a problem with their drug cartels is not justification for us giving up any of our Second Amendment rights, and IMO that was the underlying implication of the news story.

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farronwolf

It sure seems like this is a vicious circle. The American people want the drugs that come through Mexico, (not all Americans, but the ones that do the drugs), and the drug dealers want the guns that come from the USA. The more guns go down the Mexico, the more likely there will be drugs brought up into the USA, thereby making our problems up here worse. More people in jail, more broken families, more money spent on enforcement, more drug wars in this country.

Regardless of what slant there was to the story, it does seem that it will have an effect on us here. If the statement that 2,000 of the 4,300 that were killed were leo's that is quite a staggering figure. If the numbers of leo's in this country were that high, I am sure that we would take drastic measure here, wouldn't we?

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