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Old June 24th, 2008, 10:07 AM   #11
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About time. How can Texas not be an OC state? It boggles the mind.
The funny thing is I can carry a loaded rifle (non assault type) around openly all day, however foolish to do so, and be legal (providing I am legal in owning this weapon).

I just hope if TX passes an OC law that they don't restrict CC. I actually would like to have the choice, you see I don't really like talking to people I don't know that much and on days I don't want to "chat" while waiting for my tires to be rotated I could just strap on OWB and then I won't be bothered.

As to the post of the bangers carrying open, other than the higher class crooks (mafia, not that they exist or anything) it would be pretty obvious who the legal/responsible people are, IMHO.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:28 AM   #12
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Personally, I would prefer to only CC, but the option of OC is attractive for one reason (to me)...an accidental 'display' (from the wind, printing, etc.) would mean nothing...OMO...go TX...
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:30 AM   #13
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Texas group wants to carry handguns in plain view

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FORT WORTH -- Despite the Lone Star State's love affair with the gun, there's at least one firearms restriction that some Texans want lifted.

Texas is just one of six states in which handguns can't be worn in plain view. The other 44 states, in the parlance of gun advocates, are known as "open-carry" states.

More than 5,000 people have signed an online petition asking Gov. Rick Perry and the Legislature to permit Texans to wear their handguns without concealing them.

The Texas Citizens Defense League supports the petition, which requests that people who legally buy handguns be allowed to carry them openly, except in places prohibited by law.

"Cowboys and Indians, and the Alamo -- and many just assumed that Texas was an open-carry state," wrote Gary Williams, who signed the petition. "Clearly, there are some changes that need to be made."

John Pierce, co-founder of Open Carry, a Web site promoting open-carry laws, said he considers the ability to wear a holstered firearm on the outside of one's clothes to be "a basic gun right." He also said it's part of Texas' long tradition of gun ownership, dating to when frontier settlers wore their guns for everyone to see.

"It was considered part of everyday life back then," Pierce said in a story Monday in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. "The concealed-carry part was what was looked at with disdain."

Some law enforcement officials and gun-safety advocates oppose the petition. Tarrant County Constable Sergio DeLeon said the sight of citizens openly carrying firearms would "create more problems than it would solve."

"I really think it would cause a lot of uneasiness in the community, with people seeing so many guns," DeLeon told the newspaper.

Richard Leal, a board member of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, said state laws are already friendly enough to gun owners.

"What are they trying to do?" Leal said. "Go back to Texas gunslinger days?"

The Texas governor has not taken a public position on open-carry laws.

"The governor is very supportive of conceal and carry laws," Perry spokeswoman Kristi Piferrer said. "Expanding that to open carry probably will take a lot of public deliberation and legislative guidance."

Here's an addy for a poll if you want to vote:

Texas group wants to carry handguns in plain view : State : Abilene Reporter-News

Poll results as of 0930, 06/24/2008

Should Texas allow people to openly carry handguns?

Yes, if state law is changed and gun owners have a permit. 70% 46 votes

No, the state's concealed handgun laws are fine. 23% 15 votes

No, all handguns should be banned. 6% 4 votes

65 total votes
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I just hope if TX passes an OC law that they don't restrict CC. I actually would like to have the choice, you see I don't really like talking to people I don't know that much and on days I don't want to "chat" while waiting for my tires to be rotated I could just strap on OWB and then I won't be bothered.
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Old June 24th, 2008, 11:39 AM   #15
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... and gun-safety advocates oppose the petition. Tarrant County Constable Sergio DeLeon said the sight of citizens openly carrying firearms would "create more problems than it would solve."

"I really think it would cause a lot of uneasiness in the community, with people seeing so many guns," DeLeon told the newspaper.

Richard Leal, a board member of Houston-based Texans for Gun Safety, said state laws are already friendly enough to gun owners.

"What are they trying to do?" Leal said. "Go back to Texas gunslinger days?"
Calling themselves "Guns Safety" advocates is the biggest lie ever told. They are simply Anti Gun advocates and letting them use that name and reinforcing them in an article by referring to them as "Gun Safety Advocates" just enables them. Bad piece of reporting to let someone call themselves something that they are not. Why not simply report that "Anti Gun" advocates calling themselves Gun Safety advocates oppose it? It is like calling Pro Choice people Pro Abortionists. When most of them certainly are not.
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This is a good move. Gives more options. I've never seen a criminal open carry and I live in an open carry state and moved from another.

If I print, no big deal. OC being legal it's a non-issue. If I'm riding my motorcycle and the wind kicks the shirt up exposing my gun, no big deal.
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It was all over WOAI talk radio this morning on the way to work. I signed the petition gladly, although I would personally be somewhat reserved about open carrying.

For some reason I just love the idea of surprising the BG with 6 .45acp rounds in the chest and one to the head.....
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For some reason I just love the idea of surprising the BG with 6 .45acp rounds in the chest and one to the head.....
thats cause your just a Romantic...
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"What are they trying to do?" Leal said. "Go back to Texas gunslinger days?"


LMAO! this is what a resident of dickson city yelled out at a borough meeting last month, a meeting i attended. another member of the "Dickson Dozen" pointed out that texas doesn't allow open carry. it's funny, people really believe that a visible gun is more dangerous than one you don't see...
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I can see one added "benefit" to this law:

If you are "printing" enough for someone to take notice and call the Police the fact that you're "printing" is not illegal.

If my memory serves me, I believe Texas is one of those places where if it is "noticed" that you are "printing" you can be arrested for it.

That may be part of the reason that the people in TX, that I know, are paranoid about "printing".

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I'm one of those paranoid pepole you talk about, I'v had to resort to use a modefied pager pal holster ( I clip my cell phone on it) to avoid printing, i have a dom humme iwb and a fobus padle owb and i print all the time with them for the reasons stated above ( the heat , tee's and shorts ect.) I would not oc but I would like the peace of mind to use my other holsters without the fear of branishing.
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