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Old June 27th, 2008, 12:03 AM   #11
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Any place that tried to tell me when where and how I could do anything that is not illegal in other parts of the country but they decide to restrict or make illegal would not get any of my hard earned money,I would move in a heart beat,I don't think people that have lived under such restrictive laws for so long know what real freedom is like
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Old June 27th, 2008, 12:12 AM   #12
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Mr. Fenty emphasized that it remains illegal to carry handguns outside the home and that only registered guns may be may be kept at home. Automatic and semi-automatic weapons will generally remain illegal, Mr. Fenty said.
This is also what DC's lead AG (who argued Heller) parroted on the News Hour tonight.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 02:35 AM   #13
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Well, the decision left a lot of wiggle room when they "followed" the ruling in Miller, even though they totally did not follow it as was pointed out in the dissent, they said that the ruling in Miller allows restrictions on ownership of certain types of arms. Had they truly followed the logic in Miller, we would be allowed to own M-16s and RPGs because those are the arms fit for militia duty.

However, the opinion then stated in other parts that arms in common use could not be banned. (Which makes no sense, since the only reason machine guns are not in common use is that they were banned by the Feds in '32, but that's another issue all together.) Therefore, a lot of interpretation can go into the definition of types of arms in common use. Until that issue is settled, we will probably not be free from potential or existing semi-auto bans and "assault weapons" bans. It's gonna take more lawsuits to settle that issue methinks.
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Old June 27th, 2008, 07:21 AM   #14
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I'm sure the idea of CCW in DC is still in the distant future, but what the Supreme Court did today was a step in the right direction. Not only for DC, it sets an example for all other cities with similar bans. DC residents will no longer have to live in fear, and will be able to protect their dwellings.
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... amnesty period ... register ... illegal to carry handguns outside the home ... only registered guns may be kept at home ... Automatic and semi-automatic weapons will generally remain illegal ...
And so the unreasonableness goes. Same ol', same ol', Heller or not. Step in the right direction, yes. But, it's only a step.

It's gonna be a long fight.

Greatest threat to criminals, IMO: that 100% of upstanding adult citizens carries. Less will yield less benefit, but nothing else will yield as much.
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I wonder if,even when registered, the handguns have to be dissassembled, ammo separate, the whole 9 yards like with rifles?
They may also try to extort large "registration fees," for handguns. Also, with this "amnesty period," it sounds like you can legally register the handguns for a while, but afterward you won't be able to(going back to all out ban).
I don't think the decision had much clarity. DC will try to find backdoor avenues around this.
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... said Dennis Henigan, vice president for law and policy at the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. "This decision gives the constitutional green light to a wide range of life-saving gun laws."
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I wonder if,even when registered, the handguns have to be dissassembled, ammo separate, the whole 9 yards like with rifles?
They may also try to extort large "registration fees," for handguns. Also, with this "amnesty period," it sounds like you can legally register the handguns for a while, but afterward you won't be able to(going back to all out ban).
I don't think the decision had much clarity. DC will try to find backdoor avenues around this.
I think what he's saying with the amnesty period is that they're not going to enforce registration violations for a period of time. i.e. you buy a gun, don't register it, then get caught with it later. At some point amnesty will end and you'll have broken the law by not registering the gun.
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I don't know, something tells me that not too many people will be jumping in line to get their guns registered.

Also, I'm not sure how this decision did all that much for the rest of us. Many of us already live in right-to-carry states, so in some ways it seems like this SCROTUS, I mean, SCOTUS ruling might actually send a signal to certain people that the registration of guns is ok.

My fear is that we won't really get our gun rights back until we're willing to employ violence to defend them.

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Thats the existing system that was tossed out.
I believe what was tossed out was more this, than the regulations on sales and the licensing of dealers.

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§ 22-4514. Possession of certain dangerous weapons prohibited; exceptions.



(a) No person shall within the District of Columbia possess any machine gun, sawed-off shotgun, or any instrument or weapon of the kind commonly known as a blackjack, slungshot, sand club, sandbag, switchblade knife, or metal knuckles, nor any instrument, attachment, or appliance for causing the firing of any firearm to be silent or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any firearms; provided, however, that machine guns, or sawed-off shotguns, and blackjacks may be possessed by the members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps of the United States, the National Guard, or Organized Reserves when on duty, the Post Office Department or its employees when on duty, marshals, sheriffs, prison or jail wardens, or their deputies, policemen, or other duly-appointed law enforcement officers, including any designated civilian employee of the Metropolitan Police Department, or officers or employees of the United States duly authorized to carry such weapons, banking institutions, public carriers who are engaged in the business of transporting mail, money, securities, or other valuables, wholesale dealers and retail dealers licensed under § 22-4510.
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