Conflicting Supreme Court decisions

exactlymypoint · June 27th, 2008, 02:12 PM

So Rush just postulated a hypothetical situation.

The Supreme Court just ruled that executing a child rapist is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court also ruled that it IS constitutional to keep and bear arms.

So he postulates that you come home one day to see a man raping your 8 year old daughter. You take out your gun and shoot him...killing him. Now what?

Kerbouchard · June 27th, 2008, 02:16 PM

I believe they call it a 'make good call'...like in pro sports when the ref gives a bad call, and then makes another call to even it out.

It's kind of like that...the gov't won't kill 'em for us, but that's why we have guns, right?

edr9x23super · June 27th, 2008, 02:17 PM

Down here in Texas we call that "Takin care of Bidness".....

AgentX · June 27th, 2008, 02:19 PM

What does the sentencing of a convicted criminal have to do with an individual's right to self-defense/defense of others? A good shoot is a good shoot...

matiki · June 27th, 2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exactlymypoint

So Rush just postulated a hypothetical situation.

The Supreme Court just ruled that executing a child rapist is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court also ruled that it IS constitutional to keep and bear arms.

So he postulates that you come home one day to see a man raping your 8 year old daughter. You take out your gun and shoot him...killing him. Now what?

That's not the same thing. The Supreme Court ruling was against the Government. Rush's question is about a private party. I understand where he's trying to go but it's not very logical.

The ruling doesn't do anything to affect self-defense, in the example he gave, the defense of your loved one has the same standard in most 'free' states.

braap · June 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM

I don't know about you guys, but if I catch someone doing that...I'm making them as dead as I possibly can...laws be damned.

cvhoss · June 27th, 2008, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matiki

That's not the same thing. The Supreme Court ruling was against the Government. Rush's question is about a private party. I understand where he's trying to go but it's not very logical.

The ruling doesn't do anything to affect self-defense, in the example he gave, the defense of your loved one has the same standard in most 'free' states.

+1

Action taken to prevent or limit injury during the commission of a crime is much different than punitive action taken months after the crime was committed. Personally though, I think they should fry 'em for raping a child.

Hoss

ronwill · June 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM

Saying the state can't execute a child rapist (which I disagree with) and defending loved ones is two completely different things. The state can't execute for armed robbery either, but if someone breaks into your house and is armed you can defend your life.

Cthulhu · June 27th, 2008, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matiki

That's not the same thing. The Supreme Court ruling was against the Government. Rush's question is about a private party. I understand where he's trying to go but it's not very logical.

The ruling doesn't do anything to affect self-defense, in the example he gave, the defense of your loved one has the same standard in most 'free' states.

++1

Rush is a dimwit.

-JT

Rob72 · June 27th, 2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exactlymypoint

So Rush just postulated a hypothetical situation.

The Supreme Court just ruled that executing a child rapist is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court also ruled that it IS constitutional to keep and bear arms.

So he postulates that you come home one day to see a man raping your 8 year old daughter. You take out your gun and shoot him...killing him. Now what?

Time to feed the hogs....

June 27th, 2008, 02:12 PM	#1
exactlymypoint Distinguished Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 1,238	Conflicting Supreme Court decisions So Rush just postulated a hypothetical situation. The Supreme Court just ruled that executing a child rapist is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court also ruled that it IS constitutional to keep and bear arms. So he postulates that you come home one day to see a man raping your 8 year old daughter. You take out your gun and shoot him...killing him. Now what? __________________ Let me explain. No. There is not time. Let me summarize. Doing my part to create a huge carbon footprint Be still, and know that I am God; Psalms 46:10 I am not by nature a humble man, sir, but circumstances sometimes require a change of habits - John Adams to Thomas Jefferson

June 27th, 2008, 02:16 PM	#2
Kerbouchard VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,413	I believe they call it a 'make good call'...like in pro sports when the ref gives a bad call, and then makes another call to even it out. It's kind of like that...the gov't won't kill 'em for us, but that's why we have guns, right? __________________ Money can be lost or stolen, health and strength may fail, but what you have committed to your mind is yours forever. http://miscmusings.townhall.com/ Who is John Galt?

June 27th, 2008, 02:17 PM	#3
edr9x23super Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 880	Down here in Texas we call that "Takin care of Bidness"..... __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

June 27th, 2008, 02:32 PM	#8
ronwill Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 651	Saying the state can't execute a child rapist (which I disagree with) and defending loved ones is two completely different things. The state can't execute for armed robbery either, but if someone breaks into your house and is armed you can defend your life. __________________ Member NRA, SAF and Georgiacarry.org

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June 27th, 2008, 02:19 PM	#4
AgentX Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 395	What does the sentencing of a convicted criminal have to do with an individual's right to self-defense/defense of others? A good shoot is a good shoot...

June 27th, 2008, 02:27 PM	#6
braap Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 46	I don't know about you guys, but if I catch someone doing that...I'm making them as dead as I possibly can...laws be damned.