NO Guns stores in DC but LOOK WHO HAS A LICENSE!!!! - Page 2

Shizzlemah · June 30th, 2008, 09:46 PM

ATF will only issue a FFL if you are properly zoned. You can do it out of your home if you are zoned for small business (or whatever it's called in your neighborhood)

SIXTO · June 30th, 2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveH

FWIIW

I know an individual who got a FFL to operate out of his home within the last year. Now out here in the sticks, zoning is a tad different than a City like DC, but for all intents he operating in a residential area.

You can still do this as long as it is properly zoned and all the other hoops have been jumped through.

kazzaerexys · June 30th, 2008, 10:03 PM

The real issue here is that the antis pressed BATFE to increase their supervision of FFLs and enforce a requirement that FFL holders actually "do business". You are not supposed to get an FFL just so you can transfer guns to yourself personally. So, at the urging of the antis, BATFE has revoked a lot of licenses of so-called "kitchen table" FFL holders precisely because they did not sell any/enough guns.

Sugarmann has an FFL so that VPC can have a presence at gun shows and some other places (trade gatherings, I presume) where an FFL is required for entry. Since he obviously sells no guns, this is in violation of BATFE regulations, and this should be yelled from the rooftops until BATFE shuts this schmuck down.

In the meanwhile, do call him and ask what his transfer fee is.

(The lack of gun shops due to zoning restrictions in D.C. is a whole 'nother ball of wax still to be dealt with...)

mrreynolds · June 30th, 2008, 10:06 PM

cphilip · June 30th, 2008, 10:09 PM

Would you guess that he buys guns to get the nasty things off the streets? Just wondering.

goawayfarm · July 1st, 2008, 07:47 AM

I think I'm going to send him a post card asking if he does transfers.........Something along the lines of:

Quote:

J. A. Sugarman
1370 Rhode Island Ave. NW #1014
Washington DC 20036

Dear Mr Sugarman,

I have a relative in DC who needs a handgun to protect themselves at home. In light of the recent Heller v DC decision, I thought this would be a good time to gift him a handgun for the sake of his children.

I searched the BATFEs FFL holder list & see you are listed as having one & as luck would have it, you are also located in DC.

Could you tell me what your transfer fee is? Most dealers around here charge $25-$50 dollars. I know that with the recent over turning of the DC gun ban, you will probably be busy.

I look forward to your reply. Stay safe & carry always!

Sincerely,

C Green
Go Away Farm
Fork Union, Va.

flccnp · July 1st, 2008, 12:47 PM

Just for follow up on the address shown in the screen snapshot:
Violence Policy Center - Washington DC - Social Service Organizations - (202) 822-8200 - Open List

Janq · July 1st, 2008, 01:03 PM

I'm calling the VPC right now...

Update:

It took a few steps to locate his extension (dial '567' at the employee extension listing option then press pound) but I hit his VM.
I left him a brief message with my full name and indicated cell phone number, stating that I am inquiring about his firearms transfer fee toward a revolver as per his listing at the BATF website stating he is an FFL.
I stated that I'm in meetings today and to leave a VM if I do not answer and that I will return his call ASAP.

- Janq

SIXTO · July 1st, 2008, 01:27 PM

I'm getting giddy with excitement, I cant wait to follow the outcome. Brilliant work Jang, MrReynolds and GoAwayFarm.

Skysoldier · July 1st, 2008, 01:39 PM

Damn you guys are GREAT!! keep sticking it to them

June 30th, 2008, 10:03 PM	#13
kazzaerexys Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 919	The real issue here is that the antis pressed BATFE to increase their supervision of FFLs and enforce a requirement that FFL holders actually "do business". You are not supposed to get an FFL just so you can transfer guns to yourself personally. So, at the urging of the antis, BATFE has revoked a lot of licenses of so-called "kitchen table" FFL holders precisely because they did not sell any/enough guns. Sugarmann has an FFL so that VPC can have a presence at gun shows and some other places (trade gatherings, I presume) where an FFL is required for entry. Since he obviously sells no guns, this is in violation of BATFE regulations, and this should be yelled from the rooftops until BATFE shuts this schmuck down. In the meanwhile, do call him and ask what his transfer fee is. (The lack of gun shops due to zoning restrictions in D.C. is a whole 'nother ball of wax still to be dealt with...) __________________ “What is a moderate interpretation of [the Constitution]? Halfway between what it says and [...] what you want it to say?” —Justice Antonin Scalia

June 30th, 2008, 10:06 PM	#14
mrreynolds Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harlem, NY Posts: 348	__________________ www.SmallArmz.info - Harlem, NYC I Can't Carry Here But I'm A Member Of The NRA. Are You? Impact Guns / U.S. Concealed Carry SAF,GOA,NYSPRA,NRA Life,Pro-Gun NH

June 30th, 2008, 10:09 PM	#15
cphilip Distinguished Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,368	Would you guess that he buys guns to get the nasty things off the streets? Just wondering. __________________ www.cphilip.com

July 1st, 2008, 01:03 PM	#18
Janq VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,882	I'm calling the VPC right now... Update: It took a few steps to locate his extension (dial '567' at the employee extension listing option then press pound) but I hit his VM. I left him a brief message with my full name and indicated cell phone number, stating that I am inquiring about his firearms transfer fee toward a revolver as per his listing at the BATF website stating he is an FFL. I stated that I'm in meetings today and to leave a VM if I do not answer and that I will return his call ASAP. - Janq __________________ "Killers who are not deterred by laws against murder are not going to be deterred by laws against guns. " - Robert A. Levy Monday, March 12, 2007 -- Op Ed -- The Washington Post

July 1st, 2008, 01:27 PM	#19
SIXTO VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Here and There Posts: 9,982	I'm getting giddy with excitement, I cant wait to follow the outcome. Brilliant work Jang, MrReynolds and GoAwayFarm. __________________ In a land of sheep, even a toothless wolf is king. Wake Up! The zombie invasion has begun years ago.

June 30th, 2008, 09:46 PM	#11
Shizzlemah Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 724	ATF will only issue a FFL if you are properly zoned. You can do it out of your home if you are zoned for small business (or whatever it's called in your neighborhood)

July 1st, 2008, 12:47 PM	#17
flccnp New Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Miami, Fl Posts: 13	Just for follow up on the address shown in the screen snapshot: Violence Policy Center - Washington DC - Social Service Organizations - (202) 822-8200 - Open List

July 1st, 2008, 01:39 PM	#20
Skysoldier Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 167	Damn you guys are GREAT!! keep sticking it to them

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