Round 2: We can't legislate it, we'll mandate it - Page 2

Paco · July 1st, 2008, 02:12 PM

I wonder what this country would be like if knuckleheads like this would take that energy and, oh I dunno, focus it on topics like energy, illegal immigration, the tax code, maybe even for grins, reduce corruption in the Govt.

Please forgive me for using common sense here, but I think that since less guns are involved in deaths per year than cars and pools, etc. that they could do some good where good needs to be done.

Allow law abiding citizens to arm themselves again and through attrition the problem will begin to solve itself.

retsupt99 · July 1st, 2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sniper58

Here's a concept NOBODY wants to put forth: reduce crime, make convicted criminals serve their FULL sentences and use the death penalty when appropriate. Put the blame where it belongs: on the criminal element not the law-abiding citizenry.

Hear! Hear!

edr9x23super · July 1st, 2008, 02:59 PM

here's another novel idea:

lets try bringing moral teachings back into our schools; Prayer to GOD back as well. While we are at it, bring back corporal punishment too.

At home, lets start teaching our kids right from wrong. Tell our deadbeat dads to own up to their responsibilities and be fathers, not delinquent drunkards.

And lets put a stop to raising "girly men". lets raise our boys to grow up espousing the traditional values of honor, truth and civic duty. No more body piercings, "tats" or other bodily decorations celebrating their "individuality".

And back to the home front, we can really sit down and monitor what is on TV; ban stations like MTV and VH1 from our homes and our lifestyle. They have no place whatsoever in a society with a moral compass.

And when we see morally reprehensible people on the street, run them out of town and back into the closet.

Then, perhaps we can turn the tide in about 20 years or so on all of this violence. In the time of my grandfathers, they did not kill each other over pairs of shoes, or television sets.

Paco · July 1st, 2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by edr9x23super

here's another novel idea:

lets try bringing moral teachings back into our schools; Prayer to GOD back as well. While we are at it, bring back corporal punishment too.

At home, lets start teaching our kids right from wrong. Tell our deadbeat dads to own up to their responsibilities and be fathers, not delinquent drunkards.

And lets put a stop to raising "girly men". lets raise our boys to grow up espousing the traditional values of honor, truth and civic duty. No more body piercings, "tats" or other bodily decorations celebrating their "individuality".

And back to the home front, we can really sit down and monitor what is on TV; ban stations like MTV and VH1 from our homes and our lifestyle. They have no place whatsoever in a society with a moral compass.

And when we see morally reprehensible people on the street, run them out of town and back into the closet.

Then, perhaps we can turn the tide in about 20 years or so on all of this violence. In the time of my grandfathers, they did not kill each other over pairs of shoes, or television sets.

GASP! How dare you...

Wait a minute, I agree 100% with you.

FYI, here is a great book that some may enjoy. It is called "Raising a Modern Day Knight" and they now have a neat site with great materials just for what you were describing (Raising a Modern Day Knight :: Fatherhood, A Noble Calling).

rodc13 · July 1st, 2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by edr9x23super

here's another novel idea:

lets try bringing moral teachings back into our schools; Prayer to GOD back as well. While we are at it, bring back corporal punishment too.

At home, lets start teaching our kids right from wrong. Tell our deadbeat dads to own up to their responsibilities and be fathers, not delinquent drunkards.

And lets put a stop to raising "girly men". lets raise our boys to grow up espousing the traditional values of honor, truth and civic duty. No more body piercings, "tats" or other bodily decorations celebrating their "individuality".

And back to the home front, we can really sit down and monitor what is on TV; ban stations like MTV and VH1 from our homes and our lifestyle. They have no place whatsoever in a society with a moral compass.

And when we see morally reprehensible people on the street, run them out of town and back into the closet.

Then, perhaps we can turn the tide in about 20 years or so on all of this violence. In the time of my grandfathers, they did not kill each other over pairs of shoes, or television sets.

Yeah, now that SCOTUS has at least recognized the 2nd Amendment, let's see if we can trash the 1st Amendment. What an absolutely brilliant idea. . .

obxned · July 1st, 2008, 04:47 PM

Well the first step in reducing violent crime is easy - enforce all the existing laws and give maximum sentences and no parole.

Oh, sorry, what was I thinking. It is not politically correct to blame the guy who does the crime, but it's okay to blame the tools he uses in his crime.

goawayfarm · July 1st, 2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob99VMI04

Next thing congress will mandate we all come up with new inventions by 2010 to solve world hunger.

Hey if that works...Why don't we get them to mandate that all cars immediately get 100mpg.......it's like waving a magic wand!

To quote Bugs Bunny:
"What a maroon!"

sgtD · July 1st, 2008, 10:40 PM

There went 5 minutes I'll never get back.

ccw9mm · July 1st, 2008, 10:51 PM

Hm. I think we should mandate that Florida apricot growers be directed to dramatically reduce the number of people who choke on full-sized apricot pits. I mean, those buggers can really tear you up. It's not right that they send out apricots with such pits.

That's about as possible as mandating that shoe sellers cut in half the number of people who end up using those shoes to attend soccer matches.

Which is just as likely as gun manufacturers being able to reduce the incidence of criminals misusing the tools for nefarious reasons.

Or as likely as playing card makers being able to reduce the number of kids who put cards in the spokes of bicycles during the summer months. The noise of those is horrible. Someone should be forced to do something about it ... even if they can't possibly be expected to do something about it.

Dumb x 2.

QKShooter · July 1st, 2008, 11:00 PM

My plan for a Performance Based Outcome is to REQUIRE Jeffrey Fagan and Stephen D. Sugarman to reduce the number of totally nonsensical dingbat morons living in the U.S. (that are exactly like them) by HALF in five years.

July 1st, 2008, 02:12 PM	#11
Paco Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,696	I wonder what this country would be like if knuckleheads like this would take that energy and, oh I dunno, focus it on topics like energy, illegal immigration, the tax code, maybe even for grins, reduce corruption in the Govt. Please forgive me for using common sense here, but I think that since less guns are involved in deaths per year than cars and pools, etc. that they could do some good where good needs to be done. Allow law abiding citizens to arm themselves again and through attrition the problem will begin to solve itself. __________________ "Don't hit at all if you can help it; don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." - Theodore Roosevelt If you are not willing to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them! -Paco

July 1st, 2008, 02:59 PM	#13
edr9x23super Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 961	here's another novel idea: lets try bringing moral teachings back into our schools; Prayer to GOD back as well. While we are at it, bring back corporal punishment too. At home, lets start teaching our kids right from wrong. Tell our deadbeat dads to own up to their responsibilities and be fathers, not delinquent drunkards. And lets put a stop to raising "girly men". lets raise our boys to grow up espousing the traditional values of honor, truth and civic duty. No more body piercings, "tats" or other bodily decorations celebrating their "individuality". And back to the home front, we can really sit down and monitor what is on TV; ban stations like MTV and VH1 from our homes and our lifestyle. They have no place whatsoever in a society with a moral compass. And when we see morally reprehensible people on the street, run them out of town and back into the closet. Then, perhaps we can turn the tide in about 20 years or so on all of this violence. In the time of my grandfathers, they did not kill each other over pairs of shoes, or television sets. __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

July 1st, 2008, 04:47 PM	#16
obxned Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: OBX, NC Posts: 1,736	Well the first step in reducing violent crime is easy - enforce all the existing laws and give maximum sentences and no parole. Oh, sorry, what was I thinking. It is not politically correct to blame the guy who does the crime, but it's okay to blame the tools he uses in his crime. __________________ http://www.obxammo.com/ There is only one gun law in this country, the 2nd Amendment. All else is bureaucratic nonsense that I choose to comply with or not at my discretion. When governments make laws, they must consider the unintended consequences.

July 1st, 2008, 10:40 PM	#18
sgtD Distinguished Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 1,642	There went 5 minutes I'll never get back. __________________ When you've got 'em by the balls, their hearts & minds will follow. Semper Fi.

July 1st, 2008, 10:51 PM	#19
ccw9mm VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 5,937	Facetiously ... Hm. I think we should mandate that Florida apricot growers be directed to dramatically reduce the number of people who choke on full-sized apricot pits. I mean, those buggers can really tear you up. It's not right that they send out apricots with such pits. That's about as possible as mandating that shoe sellers cut in half the number of people who end up using those shoes to attend soccer matches. Which is just as likely as gun manufacturers being able to reduce the incidence of criminals misusing the tools for nefarious reasons. Or as likely as playing card makers being able to reduce the number of kids who put cards in the spokes of bicycles during the summer months. The noise of those is horrible. Someone should be forced to do something about it ... even if they can't possibly be expected to do something about it. Dumb x 2. __________________ Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Reality: Disarming citizens only results in more victims. Tip: Use the <search> feature.

July 1st, 2008, 11:00 PM	#20
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 19,788	My plan for a Performance Based Outcome is to REQUIRE Jeffrey Fagan and Stephen D. Sugarman to reduce the number of totally nonsensical dingbat morons living in the U.S. (that are exactly like them) by HALF in five years. __________________ Support Our Military. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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