Roanoke Times at it again

DaveH · July 3rd, 2008, 08:44 PM

From VCDL Alert

1. City of Roanoke cannot ban guns at Fourth of July Festival,
contrary to flyer
************************************************** *****

There is a 4th of July festival at River's Edge Sports Complex in
Roanoke tomorrow. It is cosponsored by the anti-gun Roanoke Times.

The flyer says that "all firearms are strictly prohibited."

Sounds like the Roanoke Times is smoking some kind of weed again.

The City CANNOT ban guns in a public park.

If have talked to the Roanoke Commonwealth Attorney's office and also
Sgt. Smith with Roanoke PD to make sure we are one the same page.

The event will have off-duty Roanoke officers providing security.

If you are prevented from bringing a legally carried gun into the
event by any of the officers, comply with their unlawful orders, but
first get their names and badge numbers and give that information to
me so that this can be settled later.

You might ask the officers to contact Sgt. Smith or the Commonwealth
Attorney's office to confirm that the officers cannot legally enforce
a gun ban on public property.

The code section that prohibits the City from banning guns in pubic
parks and buildings is 15.2-915.

Those carrying concealed shouldn't have any problems as the officer's
won't know you're carrying, of course.

ccw9mm · July 4th, 2008, 06:02 AM

Is this merely a public venue being clearly violated by the no-guns policy, or a privately-run entertainment in which they get an exception despite being at a city park? (Uncertain about VA law, on this point.)

DaveH · July 4th, 2008, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccw9mm

Is this merely a public venue being clearly violated by the no-guns policy, or a privately-run entertainment in which they get an exception despite being at a city park? (Uncertain about VA law, on this point.)

Entertainment not a prohibition in VA.

The following is a concise sumary from the VCDL web site

Quote:

Places Where Carrying Concealed is Prohibited

NOTE: In most, but not all, locations where concealed carry is prohibited, open carry is also prohibited.

Federal Property (concealed carry with CHP and hunting exempted in National Forests) (18USC § 930)

General Assembly Building & property (open or concealed carry OK for CHP holders only) (JRC Rule)

State Parks (concealed carry w/CHP legal but open carry prohibited)

Virginia Commonwealth University (8VAC90-10-50)

Courthouses (§18.2-283.1)

Detention Facilities (§15.2-915)

K-12 school property (unless unloaded in a closed container). CHP holders may possess a loaded concealed handgun while in a vehicle. (§18.2-308.1)

K-12 school buses. (§18.2-308.1)

Property used exclusively for K-12 school-sponsored functions (§18.2-308.1)

Air carrier airport terminal buildings (§18.2-287.01)

Places of worship while a meeting for religious purposes is being held "without good and sufficient reason" (§18.2-283)

Restaurants & clubs serving on-premises alcohol (concealed carry prohibited, open carry NOT prohibited; owners & employees exempted) (§18.2-308.J3)

Private property when prohibited by owner (§18.2-308.O)

July 3rd, 2008, 08:44 PM	#1
DaveH Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 608	Roanoke Times at it again From VCDL Alert 1. City of Roanoke cannot ban guns at Fourth of July Festival, contrary to flyer ************************************************ *** There is a 4th of July festival at River's Edge Sports Complex in Roanoke tomorrow. It is cosponsored by the anti-gun Roanoke Times. The flyer says that "all firearms are strictly prohibited." Sounds like the Roanoke Times is smoking some kind of weed again. The City CANNOT ban guns in a public park. If have talked to the Roanoke Commonwealth Attorney's office and also Sgt. Smith with Roanoke PD to make sure we are one the same page. The event will have off-duty Roanoke officers providing security. If you are prevented from bringing a legally carried gun into the event by any of the officers, comply with their unlawful orders, but first get their names and badge numbers and give that information to me so that this can be settled later. You might ask the officers to contact Sgt. Smith or the Commonwealth Attorney's office to confirm that the officers cannot legally enforce a gun ban on public property. The code section that prohibits the City from banning guns in pubic parks and buildings is 15.2-915. Those carrying concealed shouldn't have any problems as the officer's won't know you're carrying, of course. __________________ I am neither a lawyer, nor I do not play one on television or on the Internet. I hope no one assumes that I am giving legal advice. Veni, Vidi, Velcro

July 4th, 2008, 06:02 AM	#2
ccw9mm VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 5,934	Is this merely a public venue being clearly violated by the no-guns policy, or a privately-run entertainment in which they get an exception despite being at a city park? (Uncertain about VA law, on this point.) __________________ Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. Reports: CZ P01 pt1, pt2. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Reality: Disarming citizens only results in more victims. Tip: Use the <search> feature.

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