Security Guard Plans To Challenge Disney By Bringing Gun To Work ? - Page 3

JonInNY · July 5th, 2008, 05:52 PM

This is not Disney's biggest problem. I think they will start feeling the crunch of losing business from the general public. For example, it would cost a family of four about $2,000 just to fly there, not to mention their exhorbitant admission, lodging, and food prices.

I think if our economy keeps deteriorating like this, most theme parks will start to have major financial problems.

BTW, voted:

Yes 6709 92%
No 554 8%

goldshellback · July 5th, 2008, 06:21 PM

Yea 6762 92%
Nay 555 8%

That's pretty!

OrlandoDriver · July 5th, 2008, 07:25 PM

A Disney Boycott would hit them where it hurts or better a language they understand Nationwide Gun Owners Disney Boyott.

artemis28 · July 5th, 2008, 10:32 PM

Voted. 93% yes
7% no
To add some information about the search of his vehicle, the new law also states that employers may not search employees' vehicles for a weapon. Searches may only be conducted by LEOs and I think even they still need probable cause to do so.

InspectorGadget · July 5th, 2008, 10:48 PM

I am thinking this may be a great RKBA case for SCOTUS to hear BEAR and incorporate into the 14th.

Of course the ACLU would be there leading the charge to protect the Bill of Rights

FN1910 · July 6th, 2008, 09:40 AM

My understanding is that after the refusal to search he went on to his post and then was suspended a few hours later. Now during those few hours I am sure the rat lawyers were busy researching their position and then came to a decision. It really doesn't say why he was suspended and doesn't say if he was fired. Was he suspended with pay? There is a lot of unknowns in this case as far as the public but I am sure the rat lawyers know the details. It is going to be interesting and unless someone with money steps up this will never make it to trial. Back in about 1776 a group challenged the establishment and suceeded. A few years later in about 1860 another group tried the same thing and failed. When you challenge the law just make sure that if you don't suceed you are willing to pay the price.

Kerbouchard · July 6th, 2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dang.45

He should have let them search, assuming he is trying to challenge Disney's specific claim that he can't have a gun secured in his private vehicle. I presume, as others have, that there is language in his employment contract allowing them to search at their discretion, and that refusal to allow such searches is itself grounds for suspension or dismissal. So now he has been suspended for refusal to grant the search, which he has already either implicitly or explicitly said they have the right to do (by signing whatever forms are required to work there).

To be able to challenge their stance against weapons in employee's private vehicles, he has to be disciplined for having a weapon in his vehicle. I could be wrong, but that is what makes sense to me. He screwed up, and may not get the chance to actually make his challenge. Too bad...

I voted,
Yes 8203 93%
No 575 7%
But I also noted you can vote more than one time, so not much of a poll.

I believe Dang.45 hit the nail right on the head. If he really wanted to challenge this, he should have let them search his vehicle and let them find a very secure safe attached to the frame of his vehicle.

For him to refuse the search is probably grounds for dismissal...you know, we want to keep our parks drug free and all, and if the employees will not let Disney search a vehicle then we just do not know what he may be hiding.

He either got some really bad advice from somebody or he's just an idiot on his own. While this is the right time to be bringing suits into the justice system, it is not the right time to bring weak suits. They need to be prepared. They need to be tailored. They need to be documented, thoroughly. I hope this guy has no grounds to fight his suspension, because from what it sounds like, it's a losing case, and Disney doesn't even have to bring up the word 'gun' to make it stick.

FN1910 · July 6th, 2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerbouchard

I voted,

He either got some really bad advice from somebody or he's just an idiot on his own. While this is the right time to be bringing suits into the justice system, it is not the right time to bring weak suits.

I vote for the latter option of being an idiot on his own and agree with your asessment totally. I may be wrong but I think he has a very weak case the way he has handled it.

OrlandoDriver · July 7th, 2008, 05:36 PM

Hes Been Fired!!!
Disney Fires Employee Over Gun At Work - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando

Kerbouchard · July 7th, 2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrlandoDriver

Hes Been Fired!!!
Disney Fires Employee Over Gun At Work - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando

Well, I think we all saw that one coming.

July 5th, 2008, 05:52 PM	#21
JonInNY Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mid-Hudson Valley New York State Posts: 1,789	This is not Disney's biggest problem. I think they will start feeling the crunch of losing business from the general public. For example, it would cost a family of four about $2,000 just to fly there, not to mention their exhorbitant admission, lodging, and food prices. I think if our economy keeps deteriorating like this, most theme parks will start to have major financial problems. BTW, voted: Yes 6709 92% No 554 8% __________________ "The right of voting for representatives is the primary right by which all other rights are protected." -- Thomas Paine ____________________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Who will guard the guards?) -- Juvenal

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InspectorGadget Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: PENSACOLA, FL Posts: 165	I am thinking this may be a great RKBA case for SCOTUS to hear BEAR and incorporate into the 14th. Of course the ACLU would be there leading the charge to protect the Bill of Rights __________________ Colt 1911 New Agent, CTLaser God Made all men, Sam Colt made a 5FT tall woman and a 300lb Gorilla equal.

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July 5th, 2008, 06:21 PM	#22
goldshellback Distinguished Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: St. Mayberry, GA Posts: 1,533	Yea 6762 92% Nay 555 8% That's pretty!

July 5th, 2008, 07:25 PM	#23
OrlandoDriver Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando,florida Posts: 67	A Disney Boycott would hit them where it hurts or better a language they understand Nationwide Gun Owners Disney Boyott.

July 5th, 2008, 10:32 PM	#24
artemis28 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 112	Voted. 93% yes 7% no To add some information about the search of his vehicle, the new law also states that employers may not search employees' vehicles for a weapon. Searches may only be conducted by LEOs and I think even they still need probable cause to do so.

July 6th, 2008, 09:40 AM	#26
FN1910 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: SC Posts: 961	My understanding is that after the refusal to search he went on to his post and then was suspended a few hours later. Now during those few hours I am sure the rat lawyers were busy researching their position and then came to a decision. It really doesn't say why he was suspended and doesn't say if he was fired. Was he suspended with pay? There is a lot of unknowns in this case as far as the public but I am sure the rat lawyers know the details. It is going to be interesting and unless someone with money steps up this will never make it to trial. Back in about 1776 a group challenged the establishment and suceeded. A few years later in about 1860 another group tried the same thing and failed. When you challenge the law just make sure that if you don't suceed you are willing to pay the price.

July 7th, 2008, 05:36 PM	#29
OrlandoDriver Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Orlando,florida Posts: 67	Hes Been Fired!!! Disney Fires Employee Over Gun At Work - Orlando News Story - WKMG Orlando