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Second Amendment Discussion & News We all know people that are "anti-gun". Make your best argument, post statistics, stories, etc that may help state why legal gun ownership is a good thing. Help us all by posting only accurate information.

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Old July 8th, 2008, 09:31 AM   #11
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Just how many more tax dollars will be thrown away as these guys try to advance their misguided agendas?
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Old July 8th, 2008, 11:45 AM   #12
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More Fenty follies.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 12:06 PM   #13
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What a bunch of maroons. I'm an engineer. I can probably come up with a way for a Flintlock to hold 1000 rnds. Will it make a bit of difference as to how "dangerous" it is or would dc call it a machine gun?
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Old July 8th, 2008, 12:08 PM   #14
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"I think an individual library that can hold 18 books — that is filled and you can read 18 books — is a problem for public safety in the District," Mendelson said. "I don't know what the correct number is, but something less than 18 books."

If they cant ban altogether, they will make it painful to get one through licecnsing.
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Old July 8th, 2008, 03:29 PM   #15
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Almost every semi-auto CAN be made to hold >12 rds. I have seen a 23 rd mag for a 1911 sold at gun shows. Since one can always MAKE a longer mag for any gun with a removable mag, the DC ban as it is now does indeed make almost every semi-auto illegal.
Agree with that, but the actual wording is "can be readily converted" to shoot more than 12 rounds. Apparently the standing interpretation for that has been that somewhere, somebody does make a 12+ magazine for the gun. But there are guns that don't have that hi-cap availability. Needing access to a machine shop is not a "ready conversion".

I will give you one. My SIG P6/P225. Heck, I can barely even get the normal mags for this. They don't make them anymore. Nobody makes hi-caps for it. This gun is not a machine-gun even by D.C.'s asinine definition. Therefore, I should be able to transfer it to my g/f in D.C. so she can register it.

But their flyer says no, clearly in contradiction to the law as written.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 08:28 PM   #16
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Ok, so if any gun that can be readily converted to shoot more than 12 rounds without reloading is a 'machine gun' by D.C. law, this clearly proves that machine guns are in common use and therefore legal to keep and bear.

Let them put that in their pipe and smoke it.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #17
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I guess to get a firearm there it would have to be muzzleloaded
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:35 PM   #18
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Ok, so if any gun that can be readily converted to shoot more than 12 rounds without reloading is a 'machine gun' by D.C. law, this clearly proves that machine guns are in common use and therefore legal to keep and bear.

Let them put that in their pipe and smoke it.
They may be able to challenge that law.... they cannot just "make up" definitions.... Courts have ruled before in cases that States, etc. cannot just make them up as they go along... and have to use the "prevaling and commonly accepted definition".
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They may be able to challenge that law.... they cannot just "make up" definitions.... Courts have ruled before in cases that States, etc. cannot just make them up as they go along... and have to use the "prevaling and commonly accepted definition".
How do you reconcile your opinion with the fact that courts are now routinely redefining marriage?

Yes, they can make up any definition they want. Don't you understand we have an evolving society and that what was previously a commonly accepted defintition now can mean something completely different.

Thse who rely on the courts to redress their grievances are seriously barking up the wrong tree.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #20
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How do you reconcile your opinion with the fact that courts are now routinely redefining marriage?

Yes, they can make up any definition they want. Don't you understand we have an evolving society and that what was previously a commonly accepted defintition now can mean something completely different.

Thse who rely on the courts to redress their grievances are seriously barking up the wrong tree.

The courts said the States, Cities, and Law-makers couldn't do it.... they never said "they" couldn't do it. There have been Supreme Court rulings on that very issue... and that's their statement.
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