badmojo

Very interesting indeed. I learned something new today! Thanks Cupcake.

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Cupcake

I believe it is up to the presiding or governing body, which isn't necessarily the preacher/priest/shaman. It is often a board or panel of congregation members that make policies. The clergyperson is often just an employee. Not trying to split hairs, but if you have permission from your pastor, you may not be covered.

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SixBravo

Good article, but a lot of the quotes from observes and others alike show that we have a long way to go in education. I certainly won't bash this piece. Its actually a good and balanced bit of reporting! Both sides weigh in with little opinionated fluff. I'd probably read more national news if more stories were written like this.

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Jackle1886

Where did you find anything about a governing body? All I've ever found, heard, been told, etc. was what the MI state police web site says. MSP - Pistol Free Areas

"Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official allows concealed weapons."

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sgtD

In my experience, most churches have a board of elders who hire the pastor and tell the him what the policies are. They also have the power to fire him if they wish. Too bad Jim Jone's church wasn't set up that way.

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Cupcake

Perhaps the wording says "presiding official," but I'm saying that the clergy may be just an employee, and the "presiding official" may be a board of elected members.

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Jackle1886

That makes sense and I see your point. I wonder if there is any case law for precedent on the issue.

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Rev9mm

Your experience is probably mostly with Baptist and similar churches, then. Most other denominations recognize the pastor/priest as being the presiding official that works in cooperation with--most definitely not FOR--a church board.

In any case, I'm fairly certain that the person the state would be looking to would be the officiating clergy and not a board, regardless of the where the "power" actually resides, since that's the way the law is worded.


--just read Cupcake's last post:

Probably the safest course of action would be to talk to the pastor and ask him (or priest, etc.) who should make that decision. If it's a board-governed church, I'm sure that he'd let you know.