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Revised “District of Columbia Personal Protection Act” Introduced
From the NRA-ILA Website:
NRA-ILA :: Legislation Quote:
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On face value it sounds great. However, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi has indicated that, at present, she will not allow members to vote on legislation that would undo the current gun laws in D.C.
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Well, it would sure be nice to see this pass, that's for sure!
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If the members of Congress refuse to uphold their oath of office then the PEOPLE should vote them out. |
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Yes indeed, but this has gone on forever
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So, sadly, whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not, the only recourse for protecting our civil rights is the SC and the responsiveness of lower courts to their edicts. I won't hold my breath for Congress to change the DC gun law regardless of election outcome; and even if one party or the other holds 60 seats in The Senate, a 40 point majority in The House, and it is the same party as that holding the White House, absolutely nothing will be done by the legislature to support the court's view. It ain't going to happen; exactly as desegregation was not going to happen until the SC spoke on the matter. And there are innumerable other examples. What is, as I have pointed out here, downright weird is the fact that so many legislative bodies throughout the US have simply dug in their heels on this issue and will not change their laws; or will only grudgingly change their laws. Again, the other world will freeze solid before NY, IL, MA, CA, change; UNLESS----injunctions are issued, and sanctions given. And as has been pointed out by numerous others, these are the time honored and very routine ways the courts have dealt with such matters since at least the time of the early Roman Empire. And it was understood by the founders that this is what courts do. I ain't gonna hold my breath expecting the legislative branch to do didly on this or much of anything else of importance, regardless of who is in charge. DYSFUNCTIONAL. |
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Yep.. but they have a "trick"... refusing to vote and have a quorum on any other legislation unless they call a vote on this and the off-shore drilling bills. The Demo's ... are making complete fools of themselves in most of American's eyes... when 75% or more show they want both of those passed. |
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Elected officials can demand the police make arrests or be fired so the cops pretty much have to.
However, it'll get no where if the judges kick the charges out. The politicians will be faced with having nothing, or coming up with something. (I'm not surprised DC is having problems; check the history of federal territories some time. The feds cannot govern at this level worth squat.) |
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Gee with 1 in 66 person experiencing violent crime in DC and 1 in 3,441 being murdered in the 2005 compared to Texas overall with 1 in 193 experiencing violent crime and 1 in 16,985 being murdered. It would be a little hard to prove the current approach is working.
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm |
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God save Queen Nancy!!
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I think it's time for the Executive brach to begin enforceing the decision of the court.
Call in the national guard (haha) or get the DOJ to issue charges of civil rights violations.
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