Thanis

I read in the NRA's Shooting Illustrated September 2008 page 9, "...Obama's endorsement of the total ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns..."

I don't doubt this has happened, but when did this happen? Was it a proposal in IL or at a Federal level? When did Obama do this?

Anyone know the details?

B52

Let me say first, I am a Republican. I also noticed that article and am having trouble getting concise evidence to back this claim. I need all the ammo I can get when arguing with my Liberal family members.

Hopyard

As he has stated he supports the Heller decision, I am sure it will have an impact on his thinking processes in the future.

Besides, a ban on the manufacture of handguns isn't going to happen. It won't garner the 60 votes needed in The Senate or the majority needed in The House, under any set of foreseeable circumstance.
Even with the Dems in charge of both houses, there are plenty who, as my Dem. rep., would not be on board with such a proposition.

There are huge national security, internationl, economic, and social problems which our new President is going to face. Gun laws will be the bottom of the priority list.

P7fanatic

Which in itself was a 170 degree flip-flop. Just one of many in the last 2 months or so. And while 'supporting' the Heller decision, in the same breath he added that communities, cities and states still had the authority to 'regulate' that 2nd Amendment right.
Sure, you bet, just like the thinking processes of the Washington D.C. administrators.

You may be right, I doubt it though. And I won't be betting my paycheck on it either.

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rljohns

I sure hope you are right, but I trust no one when it comes to my rights. I'm a libertarian registered as a Republican. I still don't trust the Republicans either. It seems to be more important where you hail from than your party.

So for now I'll cast my vote at all levels and keep my country going forward and hopefully not backward. We currently have 40 states in shall issue. Handguns legal in DC and Chicago will soon follow.

B52

P7fanatic, I am with you. We can only pray he doesn't get in. If he does the 2A issues are at great risk of loss/change as we know it. For now I am stocking up just in case.

rljohns

Stocking up may noy help if they make all semi-autos illegal retroactively. They have never tried that in the US before, but you never know. You would think the heller case would slow that down.

B52

I would still have a bunch of revolvers and bolt actions, lol. I really think that could spark a revolution if they try to disarm everyone.

rjstorlie

This is almost second hand hearsay but try this link. It references a survey BHO filled out on gun control

Found in the WSJ
Obama's Flaws Multiply - WSJ.com

Mr. Obama also backed a total ban on handguns, a move his campaign now says was the result of a rogue aide filling out a questionnaire. But Mr. Obama's own handwritten notes were found on the questionnaire, calling into question the campaign's version of what happened.

Thanis

So well said. Not quite a 180. Nice.

Thanks everyone, esp rjstorlie.

I knew about the aid story but I could not piece it together (I wish I could see the bill & his written notes).

As for the Heller decision, IDK were Obama is on gun-control issues. As stated on this forum many times, most pro-gun consider him to be anti-gun.

Follow me for a second on this. I will not argue he is pro-gun. I however do not think he has thought about the issue to conclusion.

Most of the primaries were about the war. Hillary received a lot of the pro-gun demos (and Republicians switching sides trying to get her as option B). To me, the clear reason Hillary is no longer in the race is because she voted for a war her base did not support.

Now the war is about at an end. There is talk of us exiting by July 2009. No one on either side could claim to make it happen much faster.

I think gun-right might just get higher on the list if the war issue starts to fade. There are also many other issues people will consider as the war issue fades (both - & + for Obama).

So maybe one reason John is gaining in the polls is because the war is becoming less of an issue.

So as I stated, gun-right might get higher on the list.

So...I bet we see some interesting 2nd conversation in debates.