NRA: Sarah Palin and Joe Biden: Worlds Apart

762 · August 30th, 2008, 09:04 PM

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Friday, August 29, 2008

Even before this week, the difference between Barack Obama and John McCain was clear. For one, McCain joined more than 300 other members of Congress in signing a "friend of the court" brief, in District of Columbia v. Heller, urging the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Second Amendment and against D.C.'s handgun ban.

Obama refused to sign the Heller brief, and supports reinstituting the Clinton gun and magazine ban. He also supports Ted Kennedy's bill to ban semi-automatic handguns in the guise of "micro-stamping," and supports banning inexpensive handguns as "junk guns."

But now that each candidate has chosen his running mate, the difference is even clearer than before. And when it comes to guns, the two prospective vice-presidents are as far apart as the states from which they hail.

Sen. McCain's running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, is a NRA Life Member and hunter who says, "I support our Constitutional right to bear arms and am a proponent of gun safety programs for Alaska's youth," adding "I have always strongly supported the personal use of fish and game by Alaskans. I grew up hunting and fishing in Alaska, and I am proud to raise my children with this same uniquely Alaskan heritage."

NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris W. Cox says "Governor Palin doesn't just talk about supporting the Second Amendment, it's part of her life, and she did her part to vindicate the Second Amendment for all Americans when Alaska joined 30 other states in signing a legal brief supporting Heller's challenge to the D.C. gun-ban."

As for Joe Biden, from Delaware, the Brady Campaign sums it up in a straightforward enough fashion, saying, "Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign," and "Senator Biden was a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994. He also worked hard for passage of the Brady Law (sic)."

In fact, Biden introduced an "assault weapons" ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, Biden's Senate Bill 1970 proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as "assault weapons," and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, BATF) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as "additional assault weapons."

As lead sponsor of the Senate crime bill to which the Feinstein gun ban amendment was attached, Biden was instrumental in the passage of the 1994 Clinton gun and magazine ban. Biden reiterated his support for the ban—and, in fact, took credit for authoring it—in response to a question at the CNN/YouTube debate earlier this year (to view the video, please click here).

Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993, and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act." He also included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year, along with gun show restrictions.

Currently, Biden's S. 2237 proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.

As if that's not enough, Biden voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. He also refused to sign the Congressional brief in Heller, and voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled in favor of the Second Amendment in Heller, yet he voted to confirm all four justices who voted against the Second Amendment in that case.
To put it simply, Gov. Sarah Palin would be one of the most pro-gun vice-presidents in American history, and Joe Biden would definitely be the most anti-gun.

PatrioticRick · August 30th, 2008, 09:11 PM

Thank God there is a difference.

edr9x23super · August 30th, 2008, 09:35 PM

3 cheers for McCains choice of running mate!

See, McCain is a pretty smart guy after all....

SIGguy229 · August 30th, 2008, 09:40 PM

My only critique would be...it appears the Gov is equating 2A with hunting and fishing. I wish she would come out with statements regarding self-defense of oneself and family/home...or even "all other lawful purposes".

762 · August 30th, 2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SIGguy229

My only critique would be...it appears the Gov is equating 2A with hunting and fishing. I wish she would come out with statements regarding self-defense of oneself and family/home...or even "all other lawful purposes".

does the fact that she handles an AR15 assault weapon like a champ help? i agree...speak up Sarah!!!

edr9x23super · August 30th, 2008, 09:50 PM

An addition to my previous post:

My republican lobbyist brother-in-law knows governor Palin personally; he describes her stance on gun ownership and hunting/self defense in the following terms, and I do quote:

She is Ted Nugent with Breasts

Nuff said about that, you go girl.....

762 · August 30th, 2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by edr9x23super

An addition to my previous post:

My republican lobbyist brother-in-law knows governor Palin personally; he describes her stance on gun ownership and hunting/self defense in the following terms, and I do quote:

She is Ted Nugent with Breasts

Nuff said about that, you go girl.....

and the Nuge is hardcore... What was McCain thinkin!

Eagleks · August 30th, 2008, 11:10 PM

She won't need Secret Service Protection... LOL.. she'll just bring along some friends.

She has made comments about utilzing guns for self-protection.... and is definitely in support of it.

Ridgeline · August 30th, 2008, 11:41 PM

If she did, I think all of us would sign up... what an honor to serve such a fresh, pro-America, pro-gun, pro-life, pro-Christian... Sign me up!

Doctorbarn · August 30th, 2008, 11:49 PM

I was really happy when this announcement was made.....

Now all we have to do is get them elected!!

Any suggestions on the best approach to that part of the equation?

August 30th, 2008, 09:11 PM	#2
PatrioticRick VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rigby, Idaho Posts: 3,148	Thank God there is a difference. __________________ "Someone breaking into our Country should have to face the same outcome as someone breaking into our home. I fail to see what the difference is." USN/USAF Retired/Desert Shield/Desert Storm DAV Life Member NRA Life Member

August 30th, 2008, 09:35 PM	#3
edr9x23super Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 961	3 cheers for McCains choice of running mate! See, McCain is a pretty smart guy after all.... __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

August 30th, 2008, 09:40 PM	#4
SIGguy229 Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,985	My only critique would be...it appears the Gov is equating 2A with hunting and fishing. I wish she would come out with statements regarding self-defense of oneself and family/home...or even "all other lawful purposes". __________________ Patriotic dissent is a luxury of those protected by better men than they Sacrifice: Congress thinks having to stay late to vote is sacrifice. Ask the Sailor, Soldier, Airman, or Marine meeting his child for the first time what sacrifice means martyr is a fancy name for crappy fighter

August 30th, 2008, 09:50 PM	#6
edr9x23super Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 961	An addition to my previous post: My republican lobbyist brother-in-law knows governor Palin personally; he describes her stance on gun ownership and hunting/self defense in the following terms, and I do quote: She is Ted Nugent with Breasts Nuff said about that, you go girl..... __________________ "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined". - Patrick Henry

August 30th, 2008, 11:41 PM	#9
Ridgeline Distinguished Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 1,239	If she did, I think all of us would sign up... what an honor to serve such a fresh, pro-America, pro-gun, pro-life, pro-Christian... Sign me up! __________________ "Eternity is Too Long to be Wrong" Texas CHL Instructor & Holder Life Member NRA Member TSRA

August 30th, 2008, 11:10 PM	#8
Eagleks Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 615	She won't need Secret Service Protection... LOL.. she'll just bring along some friends. She has made comments about utilzing guns for self-protection.... and is definitely in support of it.

August 30th, 2008, 11:49 PM	#10
Doctorbarn Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 90	I was really happy when this announcement was made..... Now all we have to do is get them elected!! Any suggestions on the best approach to that part of the equation? __________________ One man with a gun can control 100 without one. Vladimir Lenin

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