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Location: The Land of Enchantment
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Republicans v. democrats. Plain as black and white.
Both the DNC and RNC have issued their platform with expected results.
Dems:We believe that the right to own firearms is subject to reasonable regulation, but we know what works in Chicago might not work in Cheyenne. We can work together to enact commonsense laws and improvements- like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system and reinstating the assault weapons ban. ![]() Reps:We condemn frivolous lawsuits against the firearms industry which are transparent attempts to deprive citizens of their rights. We oppose federal licencing of lawabiding gun owners and national gun registration as violations of the second amendment. We recognize that gun control only affects and penalizes law abiding citizens and such proposals are ineffective at reducing violent crime. ![]() Anyone voting democrat? ![]()
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This is the only part of the Rep section that I have a problem with.
and we support the option of firearms training in federal programs serving senior citizens and women. Do we really need federal dollars to train old folks and women. If so, why just them? Sounds like more gov spending to me. I was hoping McCain would put a stop to some of it.
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Providing free fiearms training to the elderly and women would probably give us the biggest bang for our crime fighting buck.
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No, providing it to a select group of people is effectively another form of welfare. The federal government does not have the authority to take from all and give to few. That firearms training needs to be available to everyone, not just a few, however well-intended it might otherwise be. A woman doing her damnest to protect her family in the Bronx deserves training as much as an elderly person, no?
I'm not voting for the Democratic Party nominee, no. That doesn't necessarily mean I'm voting for the other, either. My choices, and those of everyone I know, are not as influenced by what the parties say will be done as much as what the parties have done (much of it having little to do with our right to keep and bear arms). -B |
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We already know that many of the CCW permit holders don't carry daily. Then again, who is going to provide the training. What hoops would have you to go through to become an authorized gov. trainer of these women and old folks. I watched a quite a bit of the platform building process for the Rep. it really was comical at times some of the things people wanted to put in, and some of the arguements made for certain things. It turns out some pretty feel good items in the platform that should be left without gov. involvement. But it does beat the heck out of the Dem platform on the 2A issue as pointed out by the OP.
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No matter how much you love your guns, you need to take EVERYTHING into consideration when you vote.
My main concern is my money. Luckily my economic beliefs are supported by the same party that supports the 2nd. ![]()
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When around 90% of democrats seem to be anti gun why would anyone with half a brain vote for them? No democrats for me!
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To listen to some of the dems speak, with their though processes on life styles and life in general, they NEED to carry guns. Its a fact that many of those that speak the loudest about guns, actually carry them.
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Not buying the opening statement, "Dems believe in the right to own firearms." Their track record says otherwise, tired of being played as a fool! Wish both sides would speak truth, we can plainly see who they are, just stop the lies!!
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