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Old September 6th, 2008, 04:43 PM   #11
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But then how will the lawyers get paid?!
I hear Chicago has a few ambulances to chase. Daley's seeing to that.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 04:49 PM   #12
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I don't understand how this could have even legally been done on New York, much less New York City! Not only is it almost impossible to get a firearm in NY City, a mentally disabled person would never be able to register it.

I think the defendant in this case is not admitting where he got the gun, and just said the first thing that came to mind.

Also, this is directly from Craigslist:

Prohibited...firearms, disguised, undetectable or switchblade knives, martial arts weapons, scopes, silencers, ammunition, ammunition magazines, BB guns, tear gas or stun guns.
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Old September 6th, 2008, 04:59 PM   #13
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Also, this is directly from Craigslist:

Prohibited...firearms, disguised, undetectable or switchblade knives, martial arts weapons, scopes, silencers, ammunition, ammunition magazines, BB guns, tear gas or stun guns.
Irrespective of the advertising medium's policies, they caused nothing and contributed to nothing. They're operating a public bulletin board, much the same as the city has wooden telephone poles all across town. Doesn't really matter that they have the ability to monitor, charge for the service, or anything else, really. It's like claiming Craigslist responsible because the wooden clogs purchased there, last week, were used to kick the mailman in the shins.

Personal responsibility's a challenge, for some. The aggrieved party should re-think the dishonor he's bringing to himself, the courts and his community. (Of course, there's a snowball's chance of that.)
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Old September 6th, 2008, 09:23 PM   #14
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Just for the record, the idiot in the story is no relation to me.

Jeez.
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Old September 7th, 2008, 01:16 AM   #15
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Perhaps he should sue the the gun manufacturer?
Perhaps he should sue the ammo manufacturer?
Perhaps he should sue the government for not discovering the schizo nutjob faster?
Perhaps he should sue the mother of the schitzo nutjob for birthing him?
Perhaps he should sue the doctors for not aborting the schitzo nutjob?
Perhaps he should sue the discoverers of steel and metalurgy?
Perhaps he should sue all those involved in the industrial revolution?
Perhaps he should sue all the inventors of the world for not inventing a drug to fix the schitzo nutjob?
Perhaps he should sue God?

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Old September 8th, 2008, 01:00 PM   #16
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So if he bought it at a garage sale that he found by following a sign made up of an ad printed on paper and stapled to a cardboard box at the end of the street, do we also sue the paper manufacturer? The cardboard box makers? The staple maker? The office supply store where I bought it?

Leeching lawyers who encourage this type of behavior disgust me.

It seems that the American Attitude is now: If something bad happens to me, I should get rich as a result!
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Personally, I would never sell a gun in a private sale unless I really really knew the buyer.

I would not buy a gun in a private sale unless I was absolutely 100% certain there was no chance the gun was stolen.

Better to spend a few extra bucks and work with an FFL.
Agreed. ^^

It's 2008 not 1958, back when men were men and more if not more folk were honest and sane.
I personally do not understand why people today do choose to do private F2F sales with complete strangers. No thanks.
If the buyer can't afford the extra $20 to go through an FFL transfer and background check then that is the persons problem, not to be mine later when someone comes back asking questions about why John Doe shot up the mall or in this case his neighbor.
Same goes for purchasing F2F. How do I know that gun doesn't have a body on it or isn't stolen one or two hands back? I don't. No thanks.

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Old September 8th, 2008, 02:20 PM   #18
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Never mind that the seller and or buyer may not have followed the existing laws about the sale of a firearm and should be held responsible.
Never mind the responsibilty for the crime is that of the attacker, not an agent of the sale nor the actual gun itself.
Now see, that is not fair! You are using reason and common sense in your assessment of this article. You should know better, you need to stop right now and edit your post to include nothing but baseless emotion and redirection of the facts.

Shame on you
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"But for defendant's negligence in failing to supervise and monitor the content of the ads placed on its Internet service, [the shooter] could never have legally obtained the handgun," according to the lawsuit filed yesterday in Manhattan federal court.
He didn't legally obtain the firearm if he was not legally qualified to obtain it due to criminal history and mental defectiveness.
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He didn't legally obtain the firearm if he was not legally qualified to obtain it due to criminal history and mental defectiveness.
Am I missing something here? The shooter just claimed he got it through an ad on Craigslist. Has there been any offer of proof that the ad actually existed, or was printed?
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