House right to vote on d.c. Gun regs, make council behave, says saf

mrreynolds · September 17th, 2008, 03:55 PM

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BELLEVUE, WA – House passage of a bill that strips away authority from the District of Columbia Council was both proper and expected for a number of reasons, the Second Amendment Foundation said today.

“What did the council expect,” observed SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. “The city has stonewalled, delayed and done everything in its power to make it difficult for citizens to register legal handguns, and the House justifiably voted to put an end to that nonsense. The city council’s vote to amend its own restrictive gun registration requirements was a pitifully transparent attempt to avoid having Congress take over, and it was too little, too late. Now the House has rightfully assumed responsibility for enforcing the Second Amendment in our nation’s capitol city.

“However, gun owners are not so foolish to believe that House Democrats embraced this legislation just because it was the right thing to do,” Gottlieb added. “Many voted for H.R. 6691 to give themselves some pro-gun-rights cover for the upcoming election, and they know it.

“Those Democrats are fully aware that chances of this bill getting through the Senate during this session of Congress are virtually nil,” Gottlieb added, “but this issue gave them a chance to cast a pro-gun vote they can brag about on the campaign trail over the next seven weeks. You can bet your gun collection that Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will block a vote on this measure.”

Gottlieb is co-author of These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War on Guns, a book that rips the Democratic party’s long history of supporting gun control, on political, socio-economic and racial grounds.

“We are certainly pleased that the House adopted this measure,” Gottlieb stated, “because it is a responsible step toward a sensible resolution of the District’s effort to dance around the Supreme Court ruling. It will come as a pleasant surprise, indeed, if the Senate passes this bill and sends it to President Bush before Congress adjourns. It is time for the District to live up to the Supreme Court ruling, and allow its citizens to rejoin the United States and fully exercise their constitutional right to own firearms for personal protection.”

Hopyard · September 17th, 2008, 07:50 PM

mrreynolds reposted: “However, gun owners are not so foolish to believe that House Democrats embraced this legislation just because it was the right thing to do,” Gottlieb added. “Many voted for H.R. 6691 to give themselves some pro-gun-rights cover for the upcoming election, and they know it."

Wow. That is a pretty cynical viewpoint. I do not know which way my dem. house rep. voted yet, but I can assure you if he voted pro-gun, which he likely did, it was not just to give himself cover. In fact, he is facing essentially no opposition from the other side in this year's election and will win by a huge margin in a very conservative solidly Republican district.

Really, sometimes folks actually vote the way they feel about stuff.

I stayed up quite late watching the debate on C-Span. There were some darn interesting reasons put forth to continue to allow the DC council to retain control; mostly the argument was along the line that doing so was consistent with the system of Federalism, and the courts would sort out DC's naughty behavior anyway, so no need for Congress to take a position.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the replacement bill passed in The House. I'm really just remarking on the cynical view about voting motives.

SelfDefense · September 17th, 2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hopyard

There were some darn interesting reasons put forth to continue to allow the DC council to retain control; mostly the argument was along the line that doing so was consistent with the system of Federalism, and the courts would sort out DC's naughty behavior anyway, so no need for Congress to take a position.

This is complete nonsense. The Constitution specificially highlights the plenary authority of Congress over the the District of Columbia. This is the same reason that the states remain unaffected by the Heller decision.

Eagleks · September 17th, 2008, 09:03 PM

FOXNews.com - House Passes Rules Easing D.C. Gun Restriction - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

If you haven't read this article, I definitely recommend it. All of the Kansas Congressmen voted in favor of it. Our Senators are ready to as well, and swear they WILL get it to a vote... one way or the other.

"This Congress has lost faith in the willingness of the District of Columbia to defend the Second Amendment," said Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind.

"I ask Congress, leave us alone and let us do our job," D.C. Council member Carol Schwartz said Tuesday.

September 17th, 2008, 03:55 PM	#1
mrreynolds Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Harlem, NY Posts: 348	House right to vote on d.c. Gun regs, make council behave, says saf NEWS RELEASE BELLEVUE, WA – House passage of a bill that strips away authority from the District of Columbia Council was both proper and expected for a number of reasons, the Second Amendment Foundation said today. “What did the council expect,” observed SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. “The city has stonewalled, delayed and done everything in its power to make it difficult for citizens to register legal handguns, and the House justifiably voted to put an end to that nonsense. The city council’s vote to amend its own restrictive gun registration requirements was a pitifully transparent attempt to avoid having Congress take over, and it was too little, too late. Now the House has rightfully assumed responsibility for enforcing the Second Amendment in our nation’s capitol city. “However, gun owners are not so foolish to believe that House Democrats embraced this legislation just because it was the right thing to do,” Gottlieb added. “Many voted for H.R. 6691 to give themselves some pro-gun-rights cover for the upcoming election, and they know it. “Those Democrats are fully aware that chances of this bill getting through the Senate during this session of Congress are virtually nil,” Gottlieb added, “but this issue gave them a chance to cast a pro-gun vote they can brag about on the campaign trail over the next seven weeks. You can bet your gun collection that Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will block a vote on this measure.” Gottlieb is co-author of These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War on Guns, a book that rips the Democratic party’s long history of supporting gun control, on political, socio-economic and racial grounds. “We are certainly pleased that the House adopted this measure,” Gottlieb stated, “because it is a responsible step toward a sensible resolution of the District’s effort to dance around the Supreme Court ruling. It will come as a pleasant surprise, indeed, if the Senate passes this bill and sends it to President Bush before Congress adjourns. It is time for the District to live up to the Supreme Court ruling, and allow its citizens to rejoin the United States and fully exercise their constitutional right to own firearms for personal protection.” __________________ www.SmallArmz.info - Harlem, NYC I Can't Carry Here But I'm A Member Of The NRA. Are You? Impact Guns / U.S. Concealed Carry SAF,GOA,NYSPRA,NRA Life,Pro-Gun NH

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September 17th, 2008, 07:50 PM	#2
Hopyard Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: College Station Posts: 1,180	mrreynolds reposted: “However, gun owners are not so foolish to believe that House Democrats embraced this legislation just because it was the right thing to do,” Gottlieb added. “Many voted for H.R. 6691 to give themselves some pro-gun-rights cover for the upcoming election, and they know it." Wow. That is a pretty cynical viewpoint. I do not know which way my dem. house rep. voted yet, but I can assure you if he voted pro-gun, which he likely did, it was not just to give himself cover. In fact, he is facing essentially no opposition from the other side in this year's election and will win by a huge margin in a very conservative solidly Republican district. Really, sometimes folks actually vote the way they feel about stuff. I stayed up quite late watching the debate on C-Span. There were some darn interesting reasons put forth to continue to allow the DC council to retain control; mostly the argument was along the line that doing so was consistent with the system of Federalism, and the courts would sort out DC's naughty behavior anyway, so no need for Congress to take a position. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad the replacement bill passed in The House. I'm really just remarking on the cynical view about voting motives.

September 17th, 2008, 09:03 PM	#4
Eagleks Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 615	FOXNews.com - House Passes Rules Easing D.C. Gun Restriction - Politics \| Republican Party \| Democratic Party \| Political Spectrum If you haven't read this article, I definitely recommend it. All of the Kansas Congressmen voted in favor of it. Our Senators are ready to as well, and swear they WILL get it to a vote... one way or the other. "This Congress has lost faith in the willingness of the District of Columbia to defend the Second Amendment," said Rep. Mark Souder, R-Ind. "I ask Congress, leave us alone and let us do our job," D.C. Council member Carol Schwartz said Tuesday.