You don't woo gun owners while treating them like criminals.: MERGED

762 · September 20th, 2008, 03:22 PM

Idaho Examiner: Democrats to gun owners: ?The party is over?"Common Sense News"

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By Alan Gottlieb and Dave Workman

Breaking up is so hard to do. Judging from the Democratic Party platform, remarks from presidential nominee Barack Obama and his selection of anti-gun Sen. Joseph Biden as a running mate, the long, transparent courtship of gun owners by Democrats is over and instead of a goodbye kiss, there was a slap in the face; the political approximation of a domestic assault.

It was inevitable. After Democrats lost Congress in 1994 because their actions brought legions of angry gun owners to the polls, the party re-packaged its rhetoric and tried to sell itself as a friend of the Second Amendment. American gun owners, who are increasingly becoming gun rights activists, are not the fools Democrats think they are. As we note in our new book These Dogs Don’t Hunt: The Democrats’ War On Guns, Democrats earned their reputation as being the party of gun control. Instead of rhetoric, they need to repudiate their long-standing animosity toward gun owner rights.

The party platform tries to patronize gun owners by claiming to “recognize that the right to bear arms is an important part of the American tradition, and we will preserve Americans’ continued Second Amendment right to own and use firearms.” But then the document quickly reveals that Democrats have changed their tune but not their agenda: “We can work together to enact and enforce common-sense laws and improvements, like closing the gun show loophole, improving our background check system and reinstating the assault weapons ban…”

Gun owners know that the ten-year “ban” on so-called “assault weapons” – which included more than 200 types of commonly-owned firearms – had no measurable impact on violent crime, and that reinstating it is all about symbolism rather than substance. They know that gun shows are the source of less than one percent of guns used by violent criminals. They know anti-gunners believe “common-sense laws” include licensing, registration and a surrender of the “right to carry” to the discretionary whims of police chiefs and sheriffs.

The party chose Obama as its standard-bearer. He once served on the board of the vehemently anti-firearms civil rights Joyce Foundation. During his first run for public office he supported a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns and semi-automatic rifles. He supports mandatory waiting periods on all gun purchases. He told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review in April that “I am not in favor of concealed weapons,” insulting millions of armed citizens who care about self-defense in the process.

Gun owners know Biden as an anti-gun extremist. He consistently earns “F” ratings from gun rights organizations. He claimed credit for writing the original legislation to ban semiautomatic sport-utility rifles that are owned by millions of Americans who have harmed nobody.

The proverbial last straw for the firearms community was Obama’s remark during his acceptance speech that “The reality of gun ownership may be different for hunters in rural Ohio than for those plagued by gang-violence in Cleveland, but don’t tell me we can’t uphold the Second Amendment while keeping AK-47s out of the hands of criminals.”

The “reality” is that gun rights are the same for everyone, no matter where they live. And gun owners know from experience that Democrats falsely believe that the only way to keep guns away from criminals is to oppressively regulate gun ownership for everyone.

Mr. Obama told his faithful that Sen. McCain “doesn’t get it.” Actually, Democrats “don’t get it.” You do not woo people by treating them like criminals, and you cannot “support” someone’s civil right at the same time you regulate it to irrelevancy.

It is now clear to gun owners that Democrats only asked them to the dance just to get through the door.

great read.

Of all the voting blocks in this country, the democrats have treated gun owners like the biggest bunch of idiots. Do we not know your records?

Biden and Obama telling us our guns are safe is like a suicide bomber telling me that are road flares.

Ram Rod · September 20th, 2008, 03:26 PM

Thanks for sharing. I know with all my heart that everyone on this forum is registered to vote and will do their civic duty this year. I just know this.

BikerRN · September 20th, 2008, 04:27 PM

Not only am I registered to vote, but I'm going to discontinue my membership in AFGE because they are backing Obama.

I may make some enemies at work, what else is new. No more union dues from this "working man".

Biker

retsupt99 · September 20th, 2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ram Rod

Thanks for sharing. I know with all my heart that everyone on this forum is registered to vote and will do their civic duty this year. I just know this.

JeffLrrp · September 20th, 2008, 06:44 PM

Good article +1

automatic slim · September 20th, 2008, 06:47 PM

I am frequently solicited by AARP. Instead of joining, I send a letter in the postage paid envelope they provide, explaining that I will not join any organization that subverts my rights. Any DC members belonging to AARP, NEA,
PTA, oh yeah the DNC should do the same. All gun owners should register or reregister as Republicans, the true party of freedom, and send the democrats a message.

Paco · September 20th, 2008, 06:47 PM

Good read and yes, I will be voting again. I am still trying to make up for my very first vote, absentee ballot while in Basic voted for Clinton's first term.

I apologize and will do what I can form now on to make up for it.

Der Alte · September 20th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Real simple - they don't support me and my rights - I don't support them. Guess I should have said we in that last statement cause the wife can't stand the Dems either.

pgrass101 · September 20th, 2008, 07:07 PM

This thread is in danger of turning Poltical and will be closed, if it strays to far.

Be careful of your comments

762 · September 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM

so i take it that we won't be hearing anymore 1/2 truths about the right to "bear" arms and hunting?

September 20th, 2008, 03:26 PM	#2
Ram Rod VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: crawford county, arkansas Posts: 4,974	Thanks for sharing. I know with all my heart that everyone on this forum is registered to vote and will do their civic duty this year. I just know this. __________________ RamRod-----sans remords

September 20th, 2008, 04:27 PM	#3
BikerRN Distinguished Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: State of Discombobulation Posts: 1,872	Not only am I registered to vote, but I'm going to discontinue my membership in AFGE because they are backing Obama. I may make some enemies at work, what else is new. No more union dues from this "working man". Biker __________________ "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions."

September 20th, 2008, 06:44 PM	#5
JeffLrrp Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 219	Good article +1 __________________ “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . ----- Thomas Jefferson NRA member

September 20th, 2008, 06:47 PM	#6
automatic slim Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Land of Enchantment Posts: 235	I am frequently solicited by AARP. Instead of joining, I send a letter in the postage paid envelope they provide, explaining that I will not join any organization that subverts my rights. Any DC members belonging to AARP, NEA, PTA, oh yeah the DNC should do the same. All gun owners should register or reregister as Republicans, the true party of freedom, and send the democrats a message. __________________ "You lookin' for me Major?"

September 20th, 2008, 06:47 PM	#7
Paco Distinguished Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: McKinney, TX Posts: 1,696	Good read and yes, I will be voting again. I am still trying to make up for my very first vote, absentee ballot while in Basic voted for Clinton's first term. I apologize and will do what I can form now on to make up for it. __________________ "Don't hit at all if you can help it; don't hit a man if you can possibly avoid it; but if you do hit him, put him to sleep." - Theodore Roosevelt If you are not willing to stand behind our Troops, feel free to stand in front of them! -Paco

September 20th, 2008, 06:48 PM	#8
Der Alte Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Goldsboro, NC Posts: 735	Real simple - they don't support me and my rights - I don't support them. Guess I should have said we in that last statement cause the wife can't stand the Dems either. __________________ Its a shame that youth is wasted on the young.

September 20th, 2008, 07:07 PM	#9
pgrass101 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,998	This thread is in danger of turning Poltical and will be closed, if it strays to far. Be careful of your comments __________________ Noli nothis permittere te terere

September 20th, 2008, 07:22 PM	#10
762 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 722	so i take it that we won't be hearing anymore 1/2 truths about the right to "bear" arms and hunting? __________________ Let's Roll - Todd Beamer MOΛΩN ΛABÉ

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