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Old September 26th, 2008, 12:48 PM   #1
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NRA: media is being strong armed into dropping "false" NRA ad: Merged

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ObamaLetterNRAAd.pdf

you'll have to click on the link...it's a scan of a letter.

I didn't have an issue with that Ad at all.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:12 PM   #2
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Not since the Add is true...

Senator Obama, and now his legal staff, continue to attempt to argue that it is all about hunting. And continue to not know the difference between a "Armor Peircing" bullet as they define it, and any other Rifle round. They erroneously think that there are rounds out there for hunting that will not penetrate a bullet proof vest.

That letter smacks of pure ignorance and this guy is running for President and cannot simply have someone check into his stance to see if its based on fact?
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #3
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just like he sued because of the Ayers commercials that aired. he is threatening those who do not agree with him...i don't wanna get this thread locked, but look at this: Gateway Pundit: Missouri Sheriffs & Top Prosecutors Form Obama "Truth Squads" & Threaten Libel Charges Against Obama Critics

Obama knows he is in doo-doo with gun owners, but thinks his AHSA ads will help.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 01:54 PM   #4
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Obama knows he is in doo-doo with gun owners, but thinks his AHSA ads will help.


Not all of them.....
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Old September 26th, 2008, 02:12 PM   #5
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Not all of them.....
the clueless ones, maybe...
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Old September 26th, 2008, 02:24 PM   #6
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Looks like the desparation factor is kicking in. BTW - how can anyone other than the "victim" bring legal action?
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Since I have not seen the ad, I don't know what it says exactly. I will say that factcheck.org does do its homework and presents things fairly regardless of political affiliation from what I have seen.

The only other thing I will say is that if an ad stretches the truth or misrepresents information it doesn't help the advertisers cause much, regardless of who puts it out. If the NRA wants to put an ad out against Obama, there is plenty of acurrate information out there supporting his stance against guns that they could use and would not be called on or questioned as misleading.
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Old September 26th, 2008, 03:54 PM   #8
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Since I have not seen the ad, I don't know what it says exactly. I will say that factcheck.org does do its homework and presents things fairly regardless of political affiliation from what I have seen.

The only other thing I will say is that if an ad stretches the truth or misrepresents information it doesn't help the advertisers cause much, regardless of who puts it out. If the NRA wants to put an ad out against Obama, there is plenty of accurate information out there supporting his stance against guns that they could use and would not be called on or questioned as misleading.



Exactly. Why lie or stretch the truth? You will get caught. Also, you have to realize that adds like this are not directed at you. The NRA knows that they have pretty big chunk of gun owners support. You are the choir so to speak. These adds are directed at gun owners who are not fearful of the government coming to take their gun but the NRA wants them to be. Where it hurts them is when you have a gun owner who knows how to look up facts on the Internet or other legitimate sources and finds out that something is not true. It makes one question your motives and other ideas.


This goes for both campaigns, when you lie or stretch the truth to make a point, everybody loses.




and one more thing, folks that hold an opinion different from you are not clueless.... Its just a differing opinion.
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even though i'm no fan of the NRA, i will say this: they're not exactly in the habit of stretching the truth. if they claim to have facts, i'm apt to believe them.
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Since I have not seen the ad, I don't know what it says exactly. I will say that factcheck.org does do its homework and presents things fairly regardless of political affiliation from what I have seen.

The only other thing I will say is that if an ad stretches the truth or misrepresents information it doesn't help the advertisers cause much, regardless of who puts it out. If the NRA wants to put an ad out against Obama, there is plenty of acurrate information out there supporting his stance against guns that they could use and would not be called on or questioned as misleading.

Factscheck.org simply dismisses the facts if the Candidate says he disagrees. If he disagrees they say it is false.

However, the REAL facts are that the Candidate has voted for, has clearly stated and clearly lists at his own campaign web site that he DOES favor the Assault Weapons ban permanently (all semi auto guns really), Favors eliminating "any armor piercing bullet" (virtually all rifle rounds as he apparently doesn't know the difference or the definition of that), favors bans on hand guns for self defense (has stated and voted for this), favors access to all BATF records and considers hunting the main reason for the 2nd amendment.

It is simply easy and quick public record. It takes no rocket scientist to discover. He even posts it on his very own web site. it is clear that he is lying and is twisting the truth and does not like being made to admit it. And it is also clear that he has a lot of help trying to foist this scam on America.

Come clean Obama and quit hiding and lying. We are not all ignorant bumpkins. The facts are clearly evident if you explore the facts rather than the rhetoric. Factscheck.org simply has not checked its facts or is demonstrating a bias. And has lost its credibility. You pick. You can go to Obama's official web site and confirm most of this...
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