2 ARTICLES about recent gun violence in Seattle WARNING..2nd article facts are poor

fitznig · April 13th, 2006, 03:58 AM

these articles appearted in the Seattle Times on the same page

pro gun
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eenleaf12.html
anti-gun
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...mywales12.html

WARNING.......second article might cause you to laugh at the poor facts the writer brings up!
or irritate the crap out of you like it does for me!

PatrioticRick · April 13th, 2006, 04:17 AM

At least they were on the same page, so you can see just how much BS was in the second article.

fitznig · April 13th, 2006, 04:29 AM

this is a quote from the article

"And, firearms are just about the most lethal instruments readily available on the market. Research has shown that a gun, uniquely among commonly available weapons (and other consumer products), provides its shooter with the ability to kill quickly.

"Research further suggests that individuals who use firearms when attempting to commit suicide or murder are likely to be more "successful."

I don't even know where to begin on this guys view points!

...firearms are the most lethal instruments... providing its shoter to kill quickly???? hahaha, i've never heard anything so stupid!!!

im just speech less after that!

CopperKnight · April 13th, 2006, 09:22 AM

Greenleaf wrote a pretty good article. Until he end where it says he doesn't own a gun. Not the smartest thing I've seen in print before... "I'm defenseless, come and get me."

However, I'm refraining from commenting on the second article as I don't think I could do so civilly.

Tangle · April 13th, 2006, 11:36 AM

The first article actually made sense. I didn't have the ..... something.... to read the second.

And good point CopperKnight, annoucing we don't own a gun is not wise.

Macattack · April 14th, 2006, 12:00 AM

This tragedy in seattle had better not get the

to go on parade against guns. I'm just about to get my ccw and i refuse to give up my guns. Washington is known for its bending policy toward whiners. No smoking in bars is fine by me because i dont smoke, but it is alittle harsh to make it illegal to smoke in a cigar bar. Pretty soon in bars there will be no drinking and no talking. Also there is a 4 foot law with brighter lights in strip clubs(topless only) that is.....uh a new law. Oh and no alcohol there either. Iwas very surprised when i applied for my ccw about how easy it was. Finger prints, a record check, and i should have it next week. I plan on taking some courses and i already do a lot of practising at home(unloaded) with concealment and quick draws.

It would be nice if a newspaper could find the facts on how many violent crimes were stopped of avoided by ccw citizens. Unfortuanatly we are often put in the same catagory as the rappers who carry heat to be tough and bust a cap in haters. (straight face)

srfl · April 14th, 2006, 12:06 AM

....can someone please let that moronic "reporter" know that a number of countries that restrict or ban private firearms ownership have higher rates of suicide than the U.S.

fitznig · April 14th, 2006, 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srfl

....can someone please let that moronic "reporter" know that a number of countries that restrict or ban private firearms ownership have higher rates of suicide than the U.S.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

nitrogen · April 14th, 2006, 10:49 AM

Guns as a public health issue.

Ohhhhkay.
Let's deal with pools and automobiles, first, ok?

Macattack · April 14th, 2006, 10:51 PM

he's right guns are a public health issue. They save lives and deter crime.!! And it appears i have been contaminated by the gun bug because it has been a while since i've bought a new gun and im getting antsy.

April 13th, 2006, 03:58 AM	#1
fitznig Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 280	2 ARTICLES about recent gun violence in Seattle WARNING..2nd article facts are poor these articles appearted in the Seattle Times on the same page pro gun http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...eenleaf12.html anti-gun http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...mywales12.html WARNING.......second article might cause you to laugh at the poor facts the writer brings up! or irritate the crap out of you like it does for me!

April 13th, 2006, 04:17 AM	#2
PatrioticRick VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Rigby, Idaho Posts: 3,148	At least they were on the same page, so you can see just how much BS was in the second article. __________________ "Someone breaking into our Country should have to face the same outcome as someone breaking into our home. I fail to see what the difference is." USN/USAF Retired/Desert Shield/Desert Storm DAV Life Member NRA Life Member

April 13th, 2006, 09:22 AM	#4
CopperKnight Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Spokane area, WA Posts: 4,581	Greenleaf wrote a pretty good article. Until he end where it says he doesn't own a gun. Not the smartest thing I've seen in print before... "I'm defenseless, come and get me." However, I'm refraining from commenting on the second article as I don't think I could do so civilly. __________________ Being happy doesn't mean everything's perfect, but that you've decided to see beyond the imperfections. The only thing that stops bad guys with guns is good guys with guns. SgtD

April 14th, 2006, 12:00 AM	#6
Macattack Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rainy ol' Seattle, WA Posts: 350	This tragedy in seattle had better not get the to go on parade against guns. I'm just about to get my ccw and i refuse to give up my guns. Washington is known for its bending policy toward whiners. No smoking in bars is fine by me because i dont smoke, but it is alittle harsh to make it illegal to smoke in a cigar bar. Pretty soon in bars there will be no drinking and no talking. Also there is a 4 foot law with brighter lights in strip clubs(topless only) that is.....uh a new law. Oh and no alcohol there either. Iwas very surprised when i applied for my ccw about how easy it was. Finger prints, a record check, and i should have it next week. I plan on taking some courses and i already do a lot of practising at home(unloaded) with concealment and quick draws. It would be nice if a newspaper could find the facts on how many violent crimes were stopped of avoided by ccw citizens. Unfortuanatly we are often put in the same catagory as the rappers who carry heat to be tough and bust a cap in haters. (straight face) __________________ Fuer Grissa Ost Drauka (Let's Dance) "Every man has a right to risk his own life for the preservation of it." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau "Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular."

April 14th, 2006, 12:06 AM	#7
srfl Senior Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FL Posts: 6,270	....can someone please let that moronic "reporter" know that a number of countries that restrict or ban private firearms ownership have higher rates of suicide than the U.S. __________________ USAF: Loving Our Obscene Amenities Since 1947

April 13th, 2006, 04:29 AM	#3
fitznig Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Washington Posts: 280	this is a quote from the article "And, firearms are just about the most lethal instruments readily available on the market. Research has shown that a gun, uniquely among commonly available weapons (and other consumer products), provides its shooter with the ability to kill quickly. "Research further suggests that individuals who use firearms when attempting to commit suicide or murder are likely to be more "successful." I don't even know where to begin on this guys view points! ...firearms are the most lethal instruments... providing its shoter to kill quickly???? hahaha, i've never heard anything so stupid!!! im just speech less after that!

April 13th, 2006, 11:36 AM	#5
Tangle Senior Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chattanooga Posts: 5,688	The first article actually made sense. I didn't have the ..... something.... to read the second. And good point CopperKnight, annoucing we don't own a gun is not wise.

April 14th, 2006, 10:49 AM	#9
nitrogen Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wylie, TX Posts: 57	Guns as a public health issue. Ohhhhkay. Let's deal with pools and automobiles, first, ok? __________________ יזכר לא עד פעם Yizkor. Lo Od Pa'am. Remember. Never Again.

April 14th, 2006, 10:51 PM	#10
Macattack Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Rainy ol' Seattle, WA Posts: 350	he's right guns are a public health issue. They save lives and deter crime.!! And it appears i have been contaminated by the gun bug because it has been a while since i've bought a new gun and im getting antsy. __________________ Fuer Grissa Ost Drauka (Let's Dance) "Every man has a right to risk his own life for the preservation of it." -Jean-Jacques Rousseau "Despite the high cost of living, it remains very popular."

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