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Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time
Federal agents hunt for guns one house at a time | Chronicle | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
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Wouldn't it be more useful to put those agents on the border?
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I'm not sure how to react to this, on one hand I have issue with them reviewing dealer's records, on the other I see the need to curb the sale and transport of illegally acquired firearms to any and all criminals.
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Title is misleading, they're not doing a house to house search, but following up on leads generated from work they already had to do - reviewing dealer records. Yeah, I agree there are better ways to utilize their time, but they are going after alleged/potential felons. Those felons are part of the problem anti's complain about - straw purchases. As long as they actually follow up and put the criminals behind bars.
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there should not be any fence sitting on this. they are not looking for a person that comited a crime. they are looking for alleged/potential felons. there is a differance. only honest people can buy guns from dealers now. Why look at those records?
I say that IF you see a pattern in the 85% of weapons THAT ARE TRACABLE then they should fallow that lead. that may lead then to a dealer and a straw purchase crime. leave the fishing expaditions to the lakes.
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This is, IMO, in the same vein as the earlier report from Department of Homeland Security branding certain conservatives/military vets, etc. as potential terrorists. It was rooted in a fundamental misunderstanding of the importance of personal liberty above virtually all else. It stems from a worldview that believes in trouncing personal liberty to ensure what is good (in the opinion of those in power) for the citizenry.
I have zero problem with federal agents enforcing the law. However, I do have a problem with federal agents digging into the books of gun dealers to find people that they think might be suscipicious. I don't have a problem with that because it is bad detective work; it is prudent to connect the dots. However, our federal government has shown time and time again that it cannot be trusted to act responsibly with increased access and power. It uses that increased access and power to the point of abuse and that is what deeply concerns me about this. I am in North Texas, just 3+ hours from Houston. If I want to buy a firearm, maybe two in one week, should I have to answer questions from federal agents? Of course not. I'm glad to cooperate but frankly, the Mexican government is attempting to put the cat back in the bag and shift blame to American citizens for their own failures. The least of their problems are the firearms that come from our states. Guns are ubiquitous. If not from us, the cartels will get them from other places. |
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Secure the border. That's the real issue.
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Sounds like they have a dirty Cop on their hands, reading the end of the article....
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We do seem to be moving toward an all powerful federal government for the people by the powerful politicians to whom the people have ceeded autonomy.
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