Mediocre gun states - Page 3

automatic slim · October 14th, 2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveH

Brady Campaign Blog

Just remember the source and think negative correlation of value.

How on earth can Oklahoma, Kentucky and Louisiana be tied for 48th? Oklahoma doesn't even allow open carry and Louisiana is iffy at best. Idaho, New Mexico and Arizona have virtually no restrictions except
requiring a permit for CC.
In NM I can open carry, conceal carry w/o a permit in my vehicle, CC w/o a permit if the gun isn't loaded, Private sales, class III, everything else is legal. Only have to be 19 to own a handgun...???

retsupt99 · October 14th, 2009, 08:32 PM

If FL had OC and the right to protect your property (TX style)...it could be the best overall state (IMHO)...most other FL laws are OK.

Iljunglebob · November 1st, 2009, 11:05 PM

I see that the Brady Bunch listed Illinois as rated in 9th place. I understand they have dropped the rating. I wonder if Illinois would have changed, recently the Illinois Supreme Court ruled that a car console is a container for purposes of transporting a firearm. This means that you can transport a handgun unloaded in the console, along with a loaded magazine if you have an Illinois Firearm Owners ID (FOID) card. This gives someone the "6 seconds from safety" type option. For those without the FOID card, the rule is encased and not immediately accessible or broken down. Also a bill passed that clarifies that you can legally carry a firearm on someone elses property with their permission. This is probably taken for granted in many states, but I think it is a step in the right direction for Illinois. The way the UUW laws read before this I don't see how someone could be convicted for it, but someone apparently was. Illinois does have laws protecting you from being sued when you defend yourself or another from someone committing a felony, so that is good.

Stevew · November 1st, 2009, 11:45 PM

All things said I think things have gotten better. Just one Supreme Court Justice away from disaster. Good thing states stand up for thier rights. Bad thing that any government at any level tramples on individual rights.

nedrgr21 · November 2nd, 2009, 01:24 AM

VT doesn't allow suppressors and MO doesn't allow non-firearm carry, at least according to the AG - if you read the R.S. fixed blade knives are allowed, but Koster apparently can't read. In MO in order to obtain any NFA items you have to get a C&R and all gov't buildings, including state run range offices are off limits to CC - we still got a ways to go.

Anything but shall issue for all weapons (guns, knives, etc), no hoops to jump through for NFA, and free to carry anywhere except posted businesses, courts, and banned by federal law is mediocre. Really, I shouldn't need a permit or stamp for anything I want to buy or to carry.

farmerbyron · November 6th, 2009, 12:32 AM

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RANK STATE POINTS
1 CALIFORNIA 79
2 NEW JERSEY 63
T-3 CONNECTICUT 54
T-3 MASSACHUSETTS 54
5 MARYLAND 53
6 NEW YORK 51
7 RHODE ISLAND 47
8 HAWAII 43
9 ILLINOIS 28
10 PENNSYLVANIA 26
T-11 DELAWARE 22
T-11 MICHIGAN 22
13 NORTH CAROLINA 20
T-14 OREGON 18
T-14 VIRGINIA 18
T-14 WASHINGTON 18
T-17 COLORADO 16
T-17 IOWA 16
19 ALABAMA 15
20 OHIO 13
T-21 MAINE 12
T-21 WISCONSIN 12
T-23 MINNESOTA 11
T-23 NEVADA 11
T-23 NEW HAMPSHIRE 11
26 NEBRASKA 10
T-27 SOUTH CAROLINA 9
T-27 TEXAS 9
T-27 VERMONT 9
T-27 WYOMING 9
T-31 INDIANA 8
T-31 MONTANA 8
T-33 GEORGIA 7
T-33 KANSAS 7
T-33 TENNESSEE 7
T-36 ARIZONA 6
T-36 ARKANSAS 6
T-36 FLORIDA 6
T-36 IDAHO 6
T-36 NEW MEXICO 6
T-36 SOUTH DAKOTA 6
42 MISSISSIPPI 5
T-43 ALASKA 4
T-43 MISSOURI 4
T-43 NORTH DAKOTA 4
T-43 UTAH 4
T-43 WEST VIRGINIA 4
T-48 KENTUCKY 2
T-48 LOUISIANA 2
T-48 OKLAHOMA 2

OK is tied for last even though we have no open carry? Also we have to abide by the gunbuster signs, unlike say MO or FL. No carry on campus like in Utah.

I wish that list was right.

October 14th, 2009, 08:32 PM	#22
retsupt99 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 22,822	If FL had OC and the right to protect your property (TX style)...it could be the best overall state (IMHO)...most other FL laws are OK. __________________ "That I cannot do." "Give this to, uh, Clemenza. I want reliable people, people who aren't going to be carried away. After all we're not murderers in spite of what this undertaker thinks." *********************************** NRA Life Member

November 1st, 2009, 11:05 PM	#23
Iljunglebob New Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Southern Illinois Posts: 2	Mediocre Gun States I see that the Brady Bunch listed Illinois as rated in 9th place. I understand they have dropped the rating. I wonder if Illinois would have changed, recently the Illinois Supreme Court ruled that a car console is a container for purposes of transporting a firearm. This means that you can transport a handgun unloaded in the console, along with a loaded magazine if you have an Illinois Firearm Owners ID (FOID) card. This gives someone the "6 seconds from safety" type option. For those without the FOID card, the rule is encased and not immediately accessible or broken down. Also a bill passed that clarifies that you can legally carry a firearm on someone elses property with their permission. This is probably taken for granted in many states, but I think it is a step in the right direction for Illinois. The way the UUW laws read before this I don't see how someone could be convicted for it, but someone apparently was. Illinois does have laws protecting you from being sued when you defend yourself or another from someone committing a felony, so that is good.

November 1st, 2009, 11:45 PM	#24
Stevew Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 343	All things said I think things have gotten better. Just one Supreme Court Justice away from disaster. Good thing states stand up for thier rights. Bad thing that any government at any level tramples on individual rights. __________________ Glock 22, GP100, S&W mod 60, Colt Delta Elite, Colt Govt 380, Ruger Single Six, Ruger Bearcat, Colt New Police

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November 2nd, 2009, 01:24 AM	#25
nedrgr21 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: KCMO Posts: 556	VT doesn't allow suppressors and MO doesn't allow non-firearm carry, at least according to the AG - if you read the R.S. fixed blade knives are allowed, but Koster apparently can't read. In MO in order to obtain any NFA items you have to get a C&R and all gov't buildings, including state run range offices are off limits to CC - we still got a ways to go. Anything but shall issue for all weapons (guns, knives, etc), no hoops to jump through for NFA, and free to carry anywhere except posted businesses, courts, and banned by federal law is mediocre. Really, I shouldn't need a permit or stamp for anything I want to buy or to carry.