Pro2A

Which states in your opinion would you consider having mediocre gun laws. States that are not as restrictive as say NJ, MA, HI, CA etc... but not as relaxed as AK, VT, KY, MT, ND etc...

Why do you believe these states are like this (AWB, bans on carry, NFA restrictions, mag limits etc... they may have one or two of these restrictions but not all) and what gets them this mediocre rating and why?

Discuss.

archer51

Every state has some laws that are restrictive to a point. Some states much worse that others. IL and WI are both anti CC states. Others such as NY, NJ, CA, HI as well as a few others are anti unless you are wealthy or politically connected. Even states like VA, FL and TX which are considered very gun friendly have idiosyncrasies in their laws. VA for example you can not CC in an establishment that serves alcohol, but you can OC. TX and FL prohibit OC. Several states (considered gun friendly) put restrictions on carrying at sporting events/locations that charge admission/ public gatherings. Still others will not provide reciprocity with other states.

Many laws are written the way they are because it was a compromise that was made to get CC passed. There is no perfect gun friendly state, and I doubt you will ever see one that is.

socal2310

I have one state for you: Vermont. Due to rock solid court precedent it has no laws that are in any way restrictive in comparison to Federal law.

Ryan

I'm here in California, because anything closer to what I consider an ideal climate doesn't exist in any U.S. jurisdiction.

Well, I also grew up here so that might play a small part :).

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rottkeeper

NY has some stupid laws for sure but you do not have to be wealthy or politically connected to get a permit to CC. Do not confuse NYC with NYS.

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tangoseal

Georgia definitlely is not on this list. Although there are a few laws I wish were rewritten or abolished I still think that for the most part our state is right on pro-gun.

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SIGP250

If you want to get a good CCW, It needs to be Missouri, Utah or Florida.

It is purely political and how one attorney general deals with another to bargain for equal or better law. I think it is a game they play. Reciprocity in any of these states is better than any others. Missouri is best but you must be a resident. If you are not a resident and and say from Illinois where there is no Concealed Carry Law, we teach Florida or Utah. It is not as good in as many states as MO but gives you the right to carry concealed with reciprocity in several states.

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SubNine

Alaska for the most part has extremely lax gun laws, meaning Alaska's state government realizes that the law abiding citizens aren't the ones committing violent crimes. Here in the Last Frontier guns are every bit part of our culture as fishing and oil drilling and we love our big guns because we have big wild animals.

The concealed carry law here that was changed back in 2003 was meant for the people in the bush who couldn't get access to a class very easily. As a result of that there was much confusion over carrying concealed in the larger cities like Anchorage and Fairbanks. Many folks were still under the assumption that you still needed an Alaska Concealed Handgun permit to carry inside the larger cities. Eventually that was cleared up with the preemption law and municipalities are forbidden from enacting stricter laws. The same law extends out to non-residents as well which is nice. Local Law Enforcement is pretty well educated on the gun laws here and many of them support the right to carry. I have yet to run into an LEO that gave me grief for carrying concealed or out in the open. I did decide to get my CCW permit anyway for reciprocity reasons, but have yet to travel outside Alaska.

We Alaskans hold our 2nd Amendment right close to us and I think anyone from Washington DC that would try to take away that right from us would have a heck of a time doing it!

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Daddy Warcrimes

A couple years ago I'd put Kansas in that category, but they're making progress.

When I first moved there they had no preemption of any sort. Certain localities had their own background check requirements, and transportation laws were a mess.

Fixed that, then got CC. No state ban on OC, but no preemption either.

Not long ago, they lifted the ban on NFA, and with the new AG's interpretation they now recognize non-resident state licenses.

I think next year is a vote to amend the constitution to make RKBA an individual right, so still a ways to go.

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bbqgrill

I think DE is right in the middle ground for instance:

May issue with a lot of hoops to jump through to get CCW.

If you jump through all the hoops you will get your permit.

Once you have your CCW there are few limitations on where you can carry.

No full auto, no silencers.

MD to the south, NJ to the east, bummer.

PA to the north, excellent.

No mandatory wait time; state and Federal instant background.

Open carry is legal with exception AFAIK of Wilmington and Dover.

Ranges are protected from civil actions by future developement.

Growing reciprocity.

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