Students for Concealed Carry on Campus at Virginia Tech needs help

DaveH · September 21st, 2009, 12:00 AM

Please join us if you can.

dave

PS: Also please send to your friends who might be able to attend and post on any other RKBA forum, on which you are active.

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From VA-ALERT
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Ken Stanton with Students For Concealed Carry on Campus at Virginia Tech just sent me [PHILIP VAN CLEAVE -- PRESIDENT VCDL] this urgent email:

Dear Fellow Protectors of Freedom -

Our self-defense rights are under fire here at Virginia Tech, and we're asking for your help in protecting them. The "Center for Peace Studies and Violence Prevention" is holding its first event of the semester, and they are making it clear that their idea of preventing violence is achieved by disarming good people. The event involves a screening of ABC's horribly-biased 20/20 special "If I Only Had a Gun" (see critiques at the end of this letter) followed by a panel discussion with Q&A - and of course, the panel is loaded with anti-gun folks. [PHILIP VAN CLEAVE -- PRESIDENT VCDL: They are ALL anti-gun - Josh Horowitz, Andrew Goddard, Lori Haas, and Omar Samaha. Leave it to the antis to be dishonest by loading the entire "panel" with those who agree with only one side.]

So, since the show is biased and the panel is loaded, in response we need to load the audience with people who understand and respect the right to bear arms and the right of self-defense. I understand this is short notice, but since we just learned of the event, we too are having to make adjustments to attend. If you can make time on Thursday night for this, here's what we need people to do:

1) Expert Speakers -- If you are a CHP instructor, police officer, lawyer, author, or otherwise trained and knowledgeable supporter of Second Amendment rights and issues, we need you to speak up and engage the biased "panel" that they have arranged.

2) Audience Supporters -- They claim they already have 50 attendees to their event that aims to disarm everyone in the name of "peace and non- violence" - we need to greatly outnumber them and show that the large majority of Americans support the right to bear arms. We need you to listen to the discussion and applaud for those statements that you support. Please email us quickly to let us know you're coming (sccc@vt.edu ).

3) Helpers and Coordinators -- Since we expect a lot of people will come to the event who are unfamiliar with the campus, we are asking people to coordinate and carpool if possible to help everyone find their way around. Also, we may need people to help hand out information and direct people to the event at Squires Student Center.

Event info:Thursday, Sept 24th 7-9pm (please arrive 30-60 min early to ensure good seating)Haymarket Theatre, in Squires Student Center on Virginia Tech campus (Event Services - Ticket Office | University Unions & Student Activities | Virginia Tech )Open to the public, respectful attire requested, 500 seats available, and handicapped accessibleAlso see the attached brochure on event

Event host: "The Center for Peace Studies and Violence Prevention" and "Students for Non-Violence"http://www.cpsvp.vt.edu/index.html - Note that nowhere in their goals and mission do they talk about guns - are they trying to hide this part of their agenda, but it's coming out in their first major event? A few of us attended their first meeting, as we were interested in the organization, but they directly attacked our group while we were in the room saying that we wanted to "give out guns to unstable students" - what a lie! [PHILIP VAN CLEAVE -- PRESIDENT VCDL: Anti-gunners lying with a straight face? I'm shocked.]

Notwithstanding, if you attend, please be respectful of everyone regardless of whether or not they agree with you. Make points succinctly and clearly, be respectful and courteous, and let them be the ones to lose their cool when they see how that their objectives are based on false premises [PHILIP VAN CLEAVE -- PRESIDENT VCDL: No sweat - VCDL members have that down to an art form.]; keep your cool just like you do when you are carrying. Also, remember that we all have the same goal - to make the world a safer place - we just disagree on how it should be done. We are just going to show that our side has a lot more support and reason behind it! [PHILIP VAN CLEAVE -- PRESIDENT VCDL: Ken is being overly generous. Their real goal is not about safety, but dictating and controlling the lives of others. Their trickery in setting up this loaded "panel" discussion is absolute proof of that.]

We hope to see you there, please bring others along with you, and send any questions, comments, and RSVP's to sccc@vt.edu. Also, please forward this message to other supporters right now - we need everyone! This event is BIG so please make arrangements to make it out – our rights are under attack yet again.

Ken StantonVice President of Leadership and FounderAlyson BoycePresident and Campus LeaderStudents for Concealed Carry on Campus at Virginia Techwww.sccc.org.vt.eduhttp://www.facebook.com/pages/Students-for-Concealed-Carry-on-Campus-at-Virginia-Tech/127977409312

More information:Some critiques of the ABC 20/20 Special:http://www.examiner.com/x-2323-LA-Gu...009m4d11-If-I- Only-Had-A-Gun-misfires-for-2020-when-they-cannot-stay-on-topichttp://thepatriotbyte.blogspot.com/2009/04/not-seeing-clearly-2020s-gun-hit-piece.htmlhttp://www.examiner.com/x-2698-Charlotte-Gun-Rights- Examiner~y2009m4d13-Myths-of-armed-selfdefense-If-I-only-hadthe-truth

joe26 · September 21st, 2009, 01:44 AM

i will try to be there

automatic slim · September 21st, 2009, 07:16 AM

"Peace activists" LOL. The left is sure adept at conceiving nice sounding names and mottos that really mean the opposite of what they are pushing. I'd attend, but I'll be vacationing in the Peoples Democratic Republic of North Korea.

shooterX · September 21st, 2009, 08:48 AM

As a Va. Tech alimni I would love to be there, however, I live in SC and can.t make it, please try and keep us up to date on this event. Thanks for posting.

dukalmighty · September 21st, 2009, 04:22 PM

I hope you guys can get the numbers,the only problem is the panel will probably shoot down your replys and probably only call on people in the audience they have planted to ask questions.Nothing like a prearranged Q&A they have scripted

joe26 · September 22nd, 2009, 01:22 PM

SCCC asked to put someone on the panel but i am not holding my breath.

fox2102 · September 22nd, 2009, 01:35 PM

Good luck with the meeting. I wouldnt expect they would let anyone from SCCC on the panel because they are afraid of not controling the situation

UnklFungus · September 22nd, 2009, 01:40 PM

I have forwarded it to Dr. Piazza at Front Sight and to Gun Owners of America and to other Pro 2A people/ organizations.

I wish I were able to attend. These "people' plan this stuff out for probably weeks in advance and then let their opposition know about it with just days/hours notice.

That is just slime, it also shows the cowardice and lack of substance that they themselves hold.

purwater · September 22nd, 2009, 01:49 PM

As a VT alum I'd like to attend as well, but I have an appointment Thursday evening. I hope those able to attend are heard.

ccw9mm · September 22nd, 2009, 02:11 PM

Sounds like an incredibly worthwhile endeavor, particularly meaningful since it is going to occur at the side of the massacre at Virginia Tech a couple years back.

Can't attend, but my heart is with each of you who will be. Go get 'em!

Supporting files: Mass Shootings At Virginia Tech -- Review Panel Report, April 16 2007

September 21st, 2009, 07:16 AM	#3
automatic slim Distinguished Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The western edge of The Confederacy Posts: 1,222	"Peace activists" LOL. The left is sure adept at conceiving nice sounding names and mottos that really mean the opposite of what they are pushing. I'd attend, but I'll be vacationing in the Peoples Democratic Republic of North Korea. __________________ "First gallant South Carolina nobly made the stand." Edge of Darkness

September 21st, 2009, 04:22 PM	#5
dukalmighty VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: texas Posts: 6,383	I hope you guys can get the numbers,the only problem is the panel will probably shoot down your replys and probably only call on people in the audience they have planted to ask questions.Nothing like a prearranged Q&A they have scripted __________________ I like Poetry,Long Walks On The Beach,And Poking Dead Things With A Stick

September 22nd, 2009, 01:49 PM	#9
purwater Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: SW Virginia Posts: 134	As a VT alum I'd like to attend as well, but I have an appointment Thursday evening. I hope those able to attend are heard. __________________ G23 w/GTL21, G27, Ruger LCP, Taurus 85UL Gray, & Heritage .22LR/.22MAG NRA Member VT Class of '96

September 22nd, 2009, 02:11 PM	#10
ccw9mm VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oregon USA Posts: 8,386	Sounds like an incredibly worthwhile endeavor, particularly meaningful since it is going to occur at the side of the massacre at Virginia Tech a couple years back. Can't attend, but my heart is with each of you who will be. Go get 'em! Supporting files: Mass Shootings At Virginia Tech -- Review Panel Report, April 16 2007 __________________ Your best weapon is your brain. Don't leave home without it. Thoughts: Justifiable self defense. Explain: How does disarming victims reduce the number of victims? Deal with evil through strength. Affirm the good in Man through trust. NRA. GOA. OFF.

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September 21st, 2009, 01:44 AM	#2
joe26 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 38	i will try to be there

September 21st, 2009, 08:48 AM	#4
shooterX Distinguished Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,560	As a Va. Tech alimni I would love to be there, however, I live in SC and can.t make it, please try and keep us up to date on this event. Thanks for posting.

September 22nd, 2009, 01:22 PM	#6
joe26 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New Jersey Posts: 38	SCCC asked to put someone on the panel but i am not holding my breath.

September 22nd, 2009, 01:35 PM	#7
fox2102 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: vestavia hills, AL Posts: 131	Good luck with the meeting. I wouldnt expect they would let anyone from SCCC on the panel because they are afraid of not controling the situation