Corzine down in flames... Will NJ Get Sensible Gun Reform? - Page 3

dgg9 · November 4th, 2009, 01:09 PM

I think Dave Kopel put it best:

"By far the most prominent gun control advocate on the ballot this year was Jon Corzine (F). This summer, Corzine twisted lots of legislative arms to win enactment of gun rationing (“one-handgun-a-month”), a silly law that is even sillier in New Jersey, where every handgun purchase requires advance permission from the local police chief. With Christie replacing Corzine, New Jersey gun owners can hope for benign neglect rather than active hostility. The New Jersey Assembly appears to be unchanged. "

JungleJim · November 4th, 2009, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retsupt99

I hope that this is foreshadowing for the 2010 elections.

Time to really take back the country.
I hope everyone is watching Glenn Beck...daily.

Beck is a bit of a loon, I prefer Lou Dobbs

Barbary · November 4th, 2009, 07:04 PM

Glenn Beck... a loon? No wonder I like him.

Patti · November 4th, 2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Hannity: “Should every citizen in your state be allowed to get a licensed weapon if they want one?”

Christie: “In New Jersey, that’s not going to happen, Sean.”

Hannity: “Why?”

Christie: “Listen, with the Democratic Legislature that we have, there is no way those type of things –”

The governor can't do anything until a bill lands on his desk.

press1280 · November 4th, 2009, 09:04 PM

Maybe have the attorney general back off if and when a 2A lawsuit hits NJ after McDonald.

Patti · November 4th, 2009, 10:10 PM

New Jersey has always been a hard-left liberal state.

Here's one example:

N.J. Court Says Americans Have No Right To Buy Handguns - Taking Liberties - CBS News

Quote:

N.J. Court Says Americans Have No Right To Buy Handguns

Quote:
A New Jersey appeals court has concluded that Americans have no Second Amendment right to buy a handgun.

In a case decided last week, the superior court upheld a state law saying that nobody may possess "any handgun" without obtaining law enforcement approval and permission in advance.

That outcome might seem like something of a surprise, especially after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled last year in the D.C. v. Heller case that the Second Amendment guarantees "the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation."

But New Jersey Appellate Division Judge Stephen Skillman wrote on behalf of a unanimous three-judge panel that Heller "has no impact upon the constitutionality of" the state law.

That's because, Skillman said, the Supreme Court did not strike down the District of Columbia's de facto handgun ban but instead simply ordered the city to issue a permit. In other words, while Americans may have the right in general to possess arms, the exact contours of that right have not been mapped, especially as the Second Amendment applies to state laws. (The court's majority opinion last year said: "We therefore assume that petitioners' issuance of a license will satisfy respondent's prayer for relief and do not address the licensing requirement.")

Look for the Supreme Court to revisit this question in a few months when it hears a case called McDonald v. Chicago. It's a constitutional challenge to Chicago's restrictive gun laws, which prohibit anyone from possessing firearms -- even in their homes -- "unless such person is the holder of a valid registration certificate for such firearm."

Sig 210 · November 5th, 2009, 08:17 AM

NJ gunowners should not expect much from Christie. He is opposed to concealed carry.

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/cor...s-on-christie/

Quote:
The Christie campaign takes exception to the portion of the ad that says Christie "stands with the NRA," saying in response: "[Christie] opposes attempts to permit conceal and carry laws in New Jersey – hardly the NRA position."

hudsonvalley · November 5th, 2009, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boscobeans

" And I want to make sure that we don’t have an abundance of guns out there."

??

BOSCO

One more example of .... those who can't, teach....they are all is idiots, with body guards by the way....

dgg9 · November 5th, 2009, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patti

The governor can't do anything until a bill lands on his desk.

Not entirely true. The governor can use his office and his access to the press as a bully pulpit to pressure the legislature to move for something he wants. Cf: Corzine pressuring the legislature to pass the "one gun a month" bill he wanted.

A governor (or POTUS) can do one of 3 things:

1. Be actively anti-RKBA, like Corzine or Bill Clinton, and push for gun control.
2. Be indifferent and do nothing, like GWB. Given the timing of the AWB sunset, that was sufficient.
3. Be actively pro-RKBA and push for repeal of gun control (frankly, I have a hard time naming anyone like this).

For the new NJ governor, I predict '2.'

QKShooter · November 5th, 2009, 09:32 AM

I would say that Reunite On Ice will be served in Hell before citizens in NJ will be able to legally carry for personal protection.

But,.....then again I never thought I would see a bulldog give birth to 21 puppies and I just saw that on TV last night.

So...anything is possible.

November 4th, 2009, 09:04 PM	#25
press1280 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: WV Posts: 591	Maybe have the attorney general back off if and when a 2A lawsuit hits NJ after McDonald. __________________ And if the cabin door of the freedman is broken open and the intruder enters for purposes as vile as were known to slavery, then should a well-loaded musket be in the hand of the occupant to send the polluted wretch to another world, where his wretchedness will forever remain complete

November 5th, 2009, 09:32 AM	#30
QKShooter Assistant Administrator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off Of The X Posts: 23,502	I would say that Reunite On Ice will be served in Hell before citizens in NJ will be able to legally carry for personal protection. But,.....then again I never thought I would see a bulldog give birth to 21 puppies and I just saw that on TV last night. So...anything is possible. __________________ Liberty/Tyranny ___________________________ Ain't That A Shame! Be Happy! *http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OG3u...1&feature=fvwp*

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

November 4th, 2009, 01:09 PM	#21
dgg9 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: philadelphia Posts: 477	I think Dave Kopel put it best: "By far the most prominent gun control advocate on the ballot this year was Jon Corzine (F). This summer, Corzine twisted lots of legislative arms to win enactment of gun rationing (“one-handgun-a-month”), a silly law that is even sillier in New Jersey, where every handgun purchase requires advance permission from the local police chief. With Christie replacing Corzine, New Jersey gun owners can hope for benign neglect rather than active hostility. The New Jersey Assembly appears to be unchanged. "

November 4th, 2009, 07:04 PM	#23
Barbary Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kentucky Posts: 373	Glenn Beck... a loon? No wonder I like him.

November 5th, 2009, 08:17 AM	#27
Sig 210 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Southwestern OK Posts: 800	NJ gunowners should not expect much from Christie. He is opposed to concealed carry. http://www.factcheck.org/2009/06/cor...s-on-christie/ Quote: The Christie campaign takes exception to the portion of the ad that says Christie "stands with the NRA," saying in response: "[Christie] opposes attempts to permit conceal and carry laws in New Jersey – hardly the NRA position."