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Home Invasions Reaching New Levels of Violence - Do You Carry In-Home?

This is a discussion on Home Invasions Reaching New Levels of Violence - Do You Carry In-Home? within the Carry & Defensive Scenarios forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by MJK I carry 24/7/365 in my home. Itís a habit of mine. I do too, except in bed or the shower. I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJK View Post
    I carry 24/7/365 in my home. Itís a habit of mine.
    I do too, except in bed or the shower. I also find by doing so I don't notice it as much when carrying away from home. It just becomes part of my routine.

    I frequently see stories where people who are "only" going to the mailbox, out to the car, convenience store, around the block, or some other innocuous place for a few minutes find they wished they had or needed a gun but it wasn't in reach. I don't want that to be me.
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    No, don't carry in the house. The security doors aren't going to get a quick kick and allow entry. By the time someone could get through the security door, then kick the locks out on the main doors, I'm standing there smiling greeting them with something that was close at hand. Hell, I'd have enough time to go grab a rifle for that matter.
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    Carry always. Just last night my wife tried to punch me in the appendix and got a fist full of glock 17. Oh sweet karma

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    Actually I have been lately since I seldom leave my property. Been wondering if I need to carry my permit while I'm out on my 42 Acres in PA.

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    Why carry at home the PO PO are just a quick phone call away. I bet Nancy doesn't carry at home. MS14??
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    Quote Originally Posted by DustyRivers View Post
    Why carry at home the PO PO are just a quick phone call away. I bet Nancy doesn't carry at home. MS14??
    Yeah, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.
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    Four homicides in three home-invasion shootings by the same shooter a couple weeks ago: https://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime...rs/2704803002/

    None of the four people shot were expecting a 19 year old man to walk into their house and shoot them, but he did. Based on the details reported so far, it doesn't seem that any of them would have had time to go and get a gun stashed nearby like in a closet or under the bed. You can research the four homes and check them out on Google Street View or Zillow. They were mostly nice upper-middle-class suburban type homes in "good" neighborhoods. There was no sign of forced entry in any of the cases.

    Take-aways: 1. The gun on you is the only one you can count on. 2. Perimeter security is helpful but for a lot of people it's impractical to always keep it tight, so you really need help with situational awareness. My early-warning system is a vigilant dog. Not infallible, but what are you counting on when you're asleep or in the shower?

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    I can't really see where home invasions are reaching new levels of violence, not since the Tate, Labianca murders. My info on home invasions before than is minimal. Anyway, that was 50 years ago. I often do carry at home. If I get dressed, I am armed.

    Believing that home invasions are getting worse is more a matter of selective sampling and selective memory than of reality.
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    Quote / colab: "Take-aways: 1. The gun on you is the only one you can count on. 2. Perimeter security is helpful but for a lot of people it's impractical to always keep it tight, so you really need help with situational awareness. My early-warning system is a vigilant dog. Not infallible, but what are you counting on when you're asleep or in the shower"?


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    I have decided to always carry even in bed these days, and I am in a small safe town with almost no crime.. Bought 2 very small very unobtrusive pistols, and will never have an excuse not to have one with me, even if its only a .22 while planting our garden on a beautiful spring day up here in the hills in the clean country air with my grandkids. Looks safe and idyllic, until maybe maybe one day it won't be.
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    Reading the title of this thread, my thought is this, if someone invades your home, things may surely reach a new level of violence, if you know what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double Naught Spy View Post
    I can't really see where home invasions are reaching new levels of violence, not since the Tate, Labianca murders. My info on home invasions before than is minimal. Anyway, that was 50 years ago. I often do carry at home. If I get dressed, I am armed.

    Believing that home invasions are getting worse is more a matter of selective sampling and selective memory than of reality.
    I have seen statistics from the FBI, Bureau of Justice Statistics and the NCVS that show "violent home burglaries" are indeed increasing. The stats above are from mid the to late 2000's, but I can't help but think that the violence is still worse even today. Your example from 1969, shows just how much more common these things are today. The Tate, Labianca murders were so out of the norm for the day that it was a Worldwide sensation, with books and movies to follow. Today, even bigger crime scenes are in the news almost daily and some of the stories get hidden under a mountain of more important stories.

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    "Between 2005 and 2007, however, there is some indication of an
    increase in the percentage of violent burglaries from 5.7% to
    7.7%.".

    The latest (2017) stats that I've seen show that around 270,000 home invasions involve violence in the US each year now. This number cannot be the same or less than the violent home invasion numbers from the 1960's... Back then, my parents, aunts, uncles and grand parents never even locked the doors of their homes. I do remember people becoming a lot more wary of burglaries and home invasions after the Manson murders.
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    Interesting..."some indication"....given statements that preceded which actually showed declines.


    Violence during household burglaries remained stable from 2000
    to 2007



    In contrast, the rate of
    household burglary when someone was home remained stable
    between 2000 (8.5 per 1,000 households) and 2007 (8.3 per 1,000
    households. The percentage of these burglaries that included
    violence remained stable between 2000 (6.3%) and 2005 (5.7%)
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    Good article on this topic by Mas Ayoob in the current (May/June) issue of Combat Handguns magazine.

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    A gun is useless sitting in the safe!!


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