Red Flag Tactics

Red Flag Tactics

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    Red Flag Tactics

    I see that 'red flag' confiscations are being carried out with the 'Randy Weaver' tactic. They first take the person into custody away from the home while they are out in public. Then, when they feel the home is safe, they serve the warrant and collect the firearms. The 'cold dead hands' vision is taken out of play. Comments?
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    That just seems like good tactical strategy.
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    It might save someone from getting killed or injured during confiscation. It is like insult on top of injury. First they embarrass you then they take your property. Maybe they call it good law enforcement. I call it an abuse of rights. Are they taking someone in custody without cause for an arrest? or are they holding a person to prevent something from happening as a precaution? In that case they are acting (IMO) without cause or evidence to support the action? I just do not like it even if it does prevent harm since they have no evidence that harm will be done. too much power in the hands of too few.
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    I heard one of the local sheriffs on the radio a while back and he said they'd likely execute the search warrants after the subject left for work to avoid conflict.
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    These leftist will try to flood this country with these laws and as they do that they will develop different strategies for how to do this. They want to do it peacefully so as to not bring attention to what is going on...this kind goes along with their way of hiding or disguising how nefarious they really are.They are political thugs that want to subjugate the American people.
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    Illegal search and seizure.
    If you are taking me in to custody, you better be arresting me for something.
    Sue,sue,sue. They all need to be taken to court.
    All the way up to the supreme court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterSmooth View Post
    I see that 'red flag' confiscations are being carried out with the 'Randy Weaver' tactic. They first take the person into custody away from the home while they are out in public. Then, when they feel the home is safe, they serve the warrant and collect the firearms. The 'cold dead hands' vision is taken out of play. Comments?
    That is how gun confiscations in general will be carried out, IMO. They want the guns, not fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Illegal search and seizure.
    If you are taking me in to custody, you better be arresting me for something.
    Sue,sue,sue. They all need to be taken to court.
    All the way up to the supreme court.
    While I'm financially comfortable, I don't have the resources to take a case all the way to the Supreme Court. You?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ButterSmooth View Post
    I see that 'red flag' confiscations are being carried out with the 'Randy Weaver' tactic. They first take the person into custody away from the home while they are out in public. Then, when they feel the home is safe, they serve the warrant and collect the firearms. The 'cold dead hands' vision is taken out of play. Comments?
    Where have you seen it happen this way? Not challenging you, just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    While I'm financially comfortable, I don't have the resources to take a case all the way to the Supreme Court. You?
    Who?
    Well lets start with a few organizations out there who have deep pockets and can fund a run at the supreme court.
    Second Amendment Foundation
    Gun Owners of America
    NRA
    National Association for Gun Rights
    Just to name a few. Give them your support and money.
    Do you think that baker in Colorado was able to take his case all the way to the supreme Court?
    No, legal organizations fund these fights.
    That is why it is important to keep them strong and well funded. We are stronger together than we are alone.
    Hope I answered your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    Where have you seen it happen this way? Not challenging you, just curious.
    Unfortunately I don't remember the details. It was a news story about a 60-64 year old that had been detained in a mall (I think) while his gun collection was removed.
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    While I don't support violations of human rights, i prefer non violent oppression to a shoot out.
    I'd rather these LE agencies not comply, but I prefer their avoiding loss of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    Who?
    Well lets start with a few organizations out there who have deep pockets and can fund a run at the supreme court.
    Second Amendment Foundation
    Gun Owners of America
    NRA
    National Association for Gun Rights
    Just to name a few. Give them your support and money.
    Do you think that baker in Colorado was able to take his case all the way to the supreme Court?
    No, legal organizations fund these fights.
    That is why it is important to keep them strong and well funded. We are stronger together than we are alone.
    Hope I answered your question.
    Go ahead and be the test case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    Go ahead and be the test case.
    If I do get caught up in this Red Flag crap, I would rather be the test case than the guy who just handed over my guns and my rights and said, well OK I guess that is that!
    From your reply it sound like you would not fight these unconstitutional laws legally in court, you would just accept the outcome?
    I find it hard to believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KILTED COWBOY View Post
    If I do get caught up in this Red Flag crap, I would rather be the test case than the guy who just handed over my guns and my rights and said, well OK I guess that is that!
    From your reply it sound like you would not fight these unconstitutional laws legally in court, you would just accept the outcome?
    I find it hard to believe.
    Better to simply stay below the radar, IMO.
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