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    The only time I really liked a red dot was shooting a match indoors in that poor lighting. Even then it was a borrowed unit. Even if I could still get my hands on that borrowed one, I'd probably be a dead person walking since it would be so outdated and about over 30 years old. As to stupid and foolish, I haven't bought any of those magazines in about 30 years. Stupid and foolish is having no fear of God.
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    I don't play fair. Never did, never will. I cheat.......3 spare mags, that's how I roll since working Close Security some 40 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis40x View Post
    If by circumstance you as a concealed handgun carrier and you do not have an optic sight mounted and 10 or plus rounds minimum capacity handgun you are a dead person walking. You simply won't survive an armed encounter. It matters not that you are not in the military in some foreign land or in law enforcement walking the mean streets, you are simply ill equipped with out the previously mentioned optic sight and inadequate less than at least 10 round capacity handgun. Article after article in firearms publications that's the message and if you ignore that messaging you are a foolish person, no you're just stupid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis40x View Post
    If that's an 8" howitzer or 155MM that was good fire support. The 175MM at extended distances was an area destruction piece, you didn't want to be in the same grid square as the accuracy at extended ranges, because of the variances in impact. My observations from being a member of a FO/AO team member on occasion.

    M119A2 8 inch Howitzer. Apparently the 175 had over pressure issues and wore out tubes quick. It was phased out in the early 70s
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    Quote Originally Posted by dennis40x View Post
    If by circumstance you as a concealed handgun carrier and you do not have an optic sight mounted and 10 or plus rounds minimum capacity handgun you are a dead person walking. You simply won't survive an armed encounter. It matters not that you are not in the military in some foreign land or in law enforcement walking the mean streets, you are simply ill equipped with out the previously mentioned optic sight and inadequate less than at least 10 round capacity handgun. Article after article in firearms publications that's the message and if you ignore that messaging you are a foolish person, no you're just stupid!

    Yes I'll admit I'm one of those stupid people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    M119A2 8 inch Howitzer. Apparently the 175 had over pressure issues and wore out tubes quick. It was phased out in the early 70s
    The 8" going over your head sounded like a freight train going by, chooo-chooo-chooo-chooo.
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    I admit to having a pistol with the RDS, I still primarily EDC with open sights, but lately have noticed that its getting harder to pick up the front sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Texas Red View Post
    Yeah, well...

    I ain't scared.

    That is my favorite 125 weight factory load in a snub. They have some pretty good flash and bark to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    Anything smaller than this and you're pretty much a dead man walking

    You know anyone that makes a holster for that? AIWB would be just about perfect! >;~}
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    Ive shot with optics I can see some benefits but you loose holster options, gun options, and conceal-ability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    The 8" going over your head sounded like a freight train going by, chooo-chooo-chooo-chooo.
    THAT I'M AWARE OF I never had any 8-inch going over head but I used to have a job working on the south end of Fort Carson and we would have 155 flying over our heads all the time. It always sounded like ripping canvas to me and I would tell my co-workers what that sound was but they never believed me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypher View Post
    THAT I'M AWARE OF I never had any 8-inch going over head but I used to have a job working on the south end of Fort Carson and we would have 155 flying over our heads all the time. It always sounded like ripping canvas to me and I would tell my co-workers what that sound was but they never believed me.
    Ah, Fort Carson, my first Duty station. I'd take my platoon of 5 M60A1s and we'd go to a bluff overlooking I-25 and we'd practice picking out a vehicle and ID it over the radio and have the gunners practice tracking the moving vehicle with the Main guns.
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    I'm RE-reading the Thread, and I've got to admit that I'm beginning to seriously look at Optics (Romeo, Delta Point, etc) as a viable option in my daily carry. I currently have em on a couple of guns I bought at the Shop I work at, and YES, a lot of people are looking at them as well. Guess the eyes are getting tired too. Been looking at a Shield MOS 45 acp as a Carry gun, or a Shield 9mm MOS if that becomes available. Holsters don't seem to be much of a issue at this time, because I'm creative in my own ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaplain Scott View Post
    Ah, Fort Carson, my first Duty station. I'd take my platoon of 5 M60A1s and we'd go to a bluff overlooking I-25 and we'd practice picking out a vehicle and ID it over the radio and have the gunners practice tracking the moving vehicle with the Main guns.
    OH you would say that!! The "PIG" is a wonderful tool..... It's lil Brother (pictured) with a FightLite Shrike upper, eats everything that I feed it too !! The Upper cost me 3500.00 which is 3x more than I paid for the original 11.5 inch gun in 1985 (Yes, that's my Maramont too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunnie View Post
    Ive shot with optics I can see some benefits but you loose holster options, gun options, and conceal-ability.
    Not really.

    As someone who has a HK P30 with a Delta Point, I didn't even have holster problems.

    Holster options for that gun at the time were not that great, and it's only gotten better.

    As for the gun options its only a problem if you can't afford it. Even Sccy is producing an optic ready pistol in the $300 range.https://www.sccy.com/handguns/cpx-1rd/

    If the gun you want doesn't come factory ready, there is someone out there willing to mill it.

    Ability to conceal is subjective as some people will say it's too hard to conceal a Glock 34 or a 5" 1911.

    If my 5'3 120# wife can conceal a Glock 17 with RMR, general concealability is not a concern.

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