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    During the winter in 2016, I was working alone at my factory. Around 7pm (it was dark), I left to get something to eat and returned to get some more work done. Our parking lot is very isolated. When I left, I had a weird feeling that I was being watched. Upon returning I once again had an uncomfortable feeling. I pulled my 9mm PPS out of it's holster, opened my truck door, stepped out and turned to reach into the truck for my food. I felt the presence of someone else and spun around pointing my PPS into the face of a man standing approx 5 feet from me. He immediately took off running....never seen anyone move that fast. He had something in his hand but I do not know what. I was amazed at the fact that I was not scared or upset.....I was totally non-emotional.

    I'm thankful that I did not pull the trigger but my finger had definitely pulled it back to that point of resistance just before the break. Now, I always check my surrounding before getting into or out of a vehicle, business or home no matter what time of day.

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    Drawn handgun on duty once, scene secured while still at high ready, no fire. Leveled shotgun at bgs twice, instant compliance both times, no fire. Thank you Lord. Son in law has drawn and fired at least once, good shoot, bg leaked but lived.
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    Yes to both. Ive drawn guns on duty so many times I couldn't count them. I think the day is coming when we'll be required to drop paper every time we draw a gun and here are the two results that will happen. Either then entire watch will be in the station typing after a call or the entire watch will be obeying all speed limits and traffic lights going to in progress , robbery's , shootings , man with guns "which means gangsters with guns", shots fired, domestic shooting for taking last chicken wing in box, rapes, felony traffic stops....ect

    Your required to go to calls promptly your not required to call to calls quickly/unsafely breaking traffic laws even with emergency lights and its up to the officers discretion what is "safe" or not.

    In a fast area you can have a gun out 3 to 6 times a night if its a hot August Sat. night with the radio spitting out one violent felony after another non-stop. Its all changed now, now the gangsters will keep coming at you and even try to disarm you. Ive known 3 guys disarmed and killed with their own guns. One was a personal friend who did a tour in 'nam on a river boat ; He had 30 years on and got disarmed by a woman on a bus who then shot him point blank in the face. I know in my heart he hesitated because she was a minority female and he didn't want any more beefs before his peaceful retirement. The Dept. had already screwed him with a 30 and he never forgot it.

    Off duty probably drawn 8 to 10 times and used once. Its been years since Ive had to draw a gun and I hope to never do so again. I'm out of the enforcement business for the duration.
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    I was at church last week at night and I had my daughter in the truck with me, it was about 10 pm and some guy drove up right behind me and just stay there so while I was talking to my daughter which she carry also, I draw my G32 out and put it on my right side so if he come up to the window I would have my gun in my hand. So he just stay behind me for about 3 or so minutes and drove off. I was out on the side of the street waiting for my wife to come out of church so we could go home but nothing happen, Thank God.
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    Twice.

    First time was a Halloween Eve, and some miscreants decided to break into our radio station, through a large outside air-handling duct. Responding cops scared 'em off; my station manager, who was expecting trouble that night, wanted me to shoot them WHILE they were in the ductwork, which WOULD have been a tough-to-beat murder rap - as I TRIED to explain to him - because they were, essentially, fish in a barrel. I was ready for them, had they made it into the station lobby, but they never got that far, and all ended well.

    Second time, it got published - 3 years after the fact. "Caught in a parking lot riot" is me.



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    In short no, and when i pull i will shoot you until your dead or when lucky you're ready for the ER too try and put you back together.
    I've read some of the stories of people "drawn my pistol lay it next to me because some stranger was behind me in the car" that is something i would not do.
    Unless i am 100% sure that a person is out to get me, and i do mean 100% i tend not to get paranoid about the world around me. And some unfortunately do, however i do meant what i said IF it gets to the point i need to draw? This does mean i am grave danger, i will pull that trigger..other than that it will not come out of the holster. As there is no reason too, it's not a toy to shows my balls. It's something i would only use if there is no other way out of a very desperate situation.

    So i praise myself lucky thusfar...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michel1980 View Post
    In short no, and when i pull i will shoot you until your dead or when lucky you're ready for the ER too try and put you back together.
    I've read some of the stories of people "drawn my pistol lay it next to me because some stranger was behind me in the car" that is something i would not do.
    Unless i am 100% sure that a person is out to get me, and i do mean 100% i tend not to get paranoid about the world around me. And some unfortunately do, however i do meant what i said IF it gets to the point i need to draw? This does mean i am grave danger, i will pull that trigger..other than that it will not come out of the holster. As there is no reason too, it's not a toy to shows my balls. It's something i would only use if there is no other way out of a very desperate situation.

    So i praise myself lucky thusfar...
    Agreed on the reason to draw. I don't advertise carrying. I am not looking for trouble, I'm not a vigilante and I am not going to save the world. I think open carry is asking for trouble. CCW is for my own protection if a grave situation finds me.

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    In 20 plus years a police officer I have had to draw my pistol untold times. CCW only 5 times in 6 years. No to having drawn and fired even though I have been close to having to shoot my pistols yet except for practice and qualification time
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    As of today the 28th of December 2017 I see a little over a hundred "draw and fire" votes. I am wondering how many of those were able to
    remain safe after the event as to threats (from family and/or friends etc of the perp), and also as to law suit(s).
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    when i am on duty ! two times

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    I've had to raise my shirt a bit once "accidentally on purpose" was gassing up in not the best neighborhood, a few fellows were discussing how to rob me in a language I happen to speak rather well but I suspect they didn't believe I could given their open discussion in such proximity, an accidental and completely unnecessary lift of my shirt later they decided to walk away and I decided to get in my car start driving and avail myself of the handsfree to report a group of thugs looking to mug someone.

    The sole time I've actually had to draw (and thankfully avoided the need to discharge) my gun happened in a parking structure at night, which I know sounds a bit trite but nevertheless is my experience, I head over to my car and as I get in between it and the one parked next to me two fellows inform me they like my car and I am going to give them the keys easy and that way they won't beat me up too bad, I disagreed with the statement by drawing a 1911 after which they decided they didn't want trouble like that and double timed it out of there, I'd like to think they were caught both times or learned a lesson but I somehow doubt it, I however did learn from both experiences (the lesson is "don't listen to people that tell you there's no need to be so alert here" or similar"

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    I had to draw my weapon twice. Never fired.

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    Had to draw four times or present a long gun, had to fire once. It was a defense of a third person on the highway back in the 80's and I put two into a T Post to convince the aggressors they were about to die.

    DPS arrived just after they departed, we gave them the License number, told him exactly what happened and he applauded me for stepping in.

    Under current law I would never fire another warning shot under any circumstances because doing so pretty well eliminates your claim of "imminent grave bodily harm or death" to a jury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    Twice.

    First time was a Halloween Eve, and some miscreants decided to break into our radio station, through a large outside air-handling duct. Responding cops scared 'em off; my station manager, who was expecting trouble that night, wanted me to shoot them WHILE they were in the ductwork, which WOULD have been a tough-to-beat murder rap - as I TRIED to explain to him - because they were, essentially, fish in a barrel. I was ready for them, had they made it into the station lobby, but they never got that far, and all ended well.

    Second time, it got published - 3 years after the fact. "Caught in a parking lot riot" is me.

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    Great article thanks for posting it.

    Of all the good points made the point about not carrying it unless you are familiar with it is the most important.

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    Incident 1: early 2000s. I began carrying a gun due to a local snake and feral dog problem. At the time, the city was spending all of its money on road repairs and killing bugs, and just didn’t seem to have a few dollars left to pay animal control to round up the infestation of prairie rattlesnakes and bullsnakes. Smaller towns were also visited by small packs of feral dogs. My first gun was a snub noes revolver which I typically loaded with snake shot. I remodeled kitchens and bathrooms at the time, often out in these small towns and remote locations where the snakes and dogs were a bigger problem.

    Incident 2: on or about 2005-6. I was doing household chores during one evening while the wife was at her job. My newborn son was asleep in his crib in his upstairs bedroom. While putting my son’s laundry away, a teen appeared at my son’s bedroom window (remember, second story), and began frantically trying to open it. My son was asleep directly under the window. I stepped over to the window, pulled out my revolver, pointed it at the teen and said “wrong house”. The look on his face was priceless. The teen scrambled down and ran across the yard only to be tackled by police seconds later. Since I had not called the police I was curious as to what was going on. Apparently this teen was just involved in a gang beating-death just a few houses away and was running from the police when he tried to brake into my son’s window.

    Incident 3: late 2012. I pulled out of a car wash onto a somewhat busy main road. A white car behind me immediately honked. I guess they thought I had just cut them off. If I did it wasn't intentional. Anyway as I drive down the road they begin tailgating me. I let off the gas and my car starts slowing down. Usually this works with tailgaters. Not this time. We got up to a red light, cars on all sides of me. I locked my door, unholstered my Colt and set it on my lap (this is illegal in states where you cannot OC) When traffic came to a stop, the passenger of the white car tailgating me (an early to mid 20s white male with a thick jacket and turned DC cap) got out and approached my driver door. I waved my hand and then pat the Colt sitting on my lap. He immediately jogged back to his car and they went a different direction with the green light.

    Incident 4: late 2013. My brother forgot his phone and I was driving to his work to give it to him. It was near zero degrees outside, lots of snow and ice, maybe a dozen cars on the road. I notice a car waiving through traffic like Mario-Cart and approaching fast. I was traveling next to another car. Everyone but this one car was doing @35 in this 55 zone due to weather. This car got right behind me and tailgated me all the way to my brother's work. When I got there, the guy stopped back a ways. I turned on my phone's voice recorder and lifted my Carheart jacket over the handle of my Colt (Carheart lengths are short and this is pretty easy to do accidentally, too). The guy got out of his car and started sharing some creative adjectives Something along the lines of "...you cut me off you little ****....you know what you did....*F-bomb here & there*. Pretending get something from the driver seat, I turned my gun side to him. He took obvious note of the gun, stopped for a moment, then walked backwards to his care sharing a few more colorful adjectives, and left.

    Incident 5: yesterday. I was driving cross-country and taking a nap at a rest stop. Around 2am a man came knocking on my car, obviously drunk, “asking” for money in that I-want-to-seem-nice-but-I’m-not-leaving-until-I-get-what-I-want style typical of drunks. At first I pretended to be asleep. He kept knocking. So I cracked the window and asked him to leave me alone. He kept talking. I listened to his shpeel about how his car was broke etc etc, then told him I don’t travel with cash, only my debt card, so I couldn’t help him. He persisted “oh come on I know you have something in there…” I turned on my commanding tone and ordered him to leave. He got pissed, hit the roof of my car and shared a few colorful adjectives. I turned on my dome light so he could see me clearly; I unholstered my Sig and set it on my lap. He took note. I looked him in the eye and said “leave”. He said “well **** man…” and, still talking, walked out of sight (many cars there, I couldn’t see him). I started the car and went to the next rest stop to finish my nap.

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