Say Goodbye to Concealed Carry...

Say Goodbye to Concealed Carry...

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    Say Goodbye to Concealed Carry...

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    Gotta love Destin. He's an avid gun owner and does a lot of great things with firearms over the years. He fully 2A, 4A, and pro-Constitution.

    But he's also an engineer and is exploring cutting edge technology which can be used with various scanning technologies to render all CC weapons visible.

    The current technology is designed to identify guns in hands, and it's quite accurate.

    If this technology were plugged into the cameras in a school, it would greatly help to pinpoint the exact location of the active shooter and any armed others going after him, while ignoring all the students either fleeing or hiding.

    I think it's cool as heck! Since a number of other companies are involved, however, it's here to stay, and will almost certainly be on a smart phone app in 3 years or less.

    But for the through-the-shirt detection, that might take a couple more years.

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    When he starts out with the misnomer “gun violence” he loses me right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msgt/ret View Post
    When he starts out with the misnomer “gun violence” he loses me right away.
    This. Anyone is instantly discredited in my view if they use terms like:

    "Gun violence"
    "Assault rifle"
    "Automatic" when referring to a semi-auto weapon
    "Bullets" instead of "rounds" or "ammunition"
    "Weapons of war" when referring to an AR-15 or AK47
    "Hunting" in reference to the 2nd Amendment
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    I also have a problem when he talks about detecting guns "where they shouldn't be." I don't really know where that is.
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    CC papers please!

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    Holding a Ruger P95 .... definitely hi tech .....
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    Technology's being turned to the diminishing of liberty and it's gonna get the best of us.


    I do use the term "automatic" when referring to semi-automatic arms. Why? Because I'm a rube and an argumentative old cuss. So, there it is.

    There is precedent.





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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    Technology's being turned to the diminishing of liberty and it's gonna get the best of us.


    I do use the term "automatic" when referring to semi-automatic arms. Why? Because I'm a rube and an argumentative old cuss. So, there it is.

    There is precedent.
    Agreed. My dad always called them "automatics" and I grew up doing the same. And as you pointed out, so does/did Colt. If you and I were having a conversation and you said "automatic," it would be a complete non-issue.

    But in today's context, where the "news" media is brainwashing people 24/7, we have to pick our battles. They're doing all they can, and with great success, to convince the clueless couch potatoes and soccer moms that an AR-15 is an "automatic" weapon like what is used by the military.
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    Even with that innovation, the gun is still concealed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringerXD View Post
    Agreed. My dad always called them "automatics" and I grew up doing the same. And as you pointed out, so does/did Colt. If you and I were having a conversation and you said "automatic," it would be a complete non-issue.

    But in today's context, where the "news" media is brainwashing people 24/7, we have to pick our battles. They're doing all they can, and with great success, to convince the clueless couch potatoes and soccer moms that an AR-15 is an "automatic" weapon like what is used by the military.
    Yeah, but I've never been accused of being PC.

    I think I'm reading that you're implying that I'm old enough to be your dad.

    Back to the topic at hand.

    I'd consider a concealed gun to be concealed too regardless of that innovation. Problem is, will a future court? This could make carrying problematic as the innovation becomes economical enough to come into general use as it inevitably will.
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    I thought he made clear that he is his fully opposed to deploying technology that could detect the existence of a concealed gun. He framed that position in the context of the 4A. Did I miss something.
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    to hide; withdraw or remove from observation; cover or keep from sight:

    It'll still be concealed

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmcgilvray View Post
    I think I'm reading that you're implying that I'm old enough to be your dad.
    Actually, no, but that was funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS_Shooter View Post
    I thought he made clear that he is his fully opposed to deploying technology that could detect the existence of a concealed gun. He framed that position in the context of the 4A. Did I miss something.
    He did; however, just as this tech has been piggy-backed onto surveillance video, further advances will extend these capabilities to identifying guns that are concealed. whether he wants it or not. The tech isn't there yet but I believe it will be.

    This is just another of the many issues we need to find answers for as computers revolutionize the world. We need to set restrictions and guidelines in place now or risk losing the privacy and freedom we once enjoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAS_Shooter View Post
    I thought he made clear that he is his fully opposed to deploying technology that could detect the existence of a concealed gun. He framed that position in the context of the 4A. Did I miss something.
    But you can't un-invent something. Once it's out there, he will not have control of it. BTW, this is not a unique invention. There is already a security company developing a device that can detect concealed weapons from a distance. It has been discussed on previous threads. And if people have such a device, there is nothing to stop them from freaking out if it goes off. I doubt some hoplophobe is going to say, "My system says you have a concealed weapon. Can I see your CHL?" No, they are going to call in a MWAG.
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