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This is a discussion on Empty chamber? within the Concealed Carry Issues & Discussions forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by Rockymonster Can we at least agree that we need an empty chamber before we can clean it? “Chamber Maid” Attachment 303982 I ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockymonster View Post
    Can we at least agree that we need an empty chamber before we can clean it?

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    I love that your posts always seem to come after my sometimes stubborn opinions to try to make some light of the discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockymonster View Post
    Can we at least agree that we need an empty chamber before we can clean it?

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    I love that your posts always seem to come after my sometimes stubborn opinions to try to make some light of the discussion.
    Thanks for that, however, I’d like to contribute in a meaningful way more often.....

    Although I do believe a sense of humor is a good de-escalation tool....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMinSC View Post
    I think the ND and resulting death while cleaning a firearm is something police agencies claim to cover up officer suicides. Sadly.
    Maybe some, but had a co-worker who blew a large chunk of his palm off while cleaning his gun. He "thought" it was unloaded, it was one that requires you to pull the trigger to disassemble, and had his palm over the bore to slightly rack the slide to finish.
    I asked him how many safety violations had he broke and how many could he have broken and not had an AD or lost a piece of himself?
    Since the round exited the house he was lucky nobody else was hurt.
    The whole point of the safety rules is tolerance stack, but at some point violate enough and you will cause harm.
    I gave him grief whenever I could on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pskys2 View Post
    Maybe some, but had a co-worker who blew a large chunk of his palm off while cleaning his gun. He "thought" it was unloaded, it was one that requires you to pull the trigger to disassemble, and had his palm over the bore to slightly rack the slide to finish.
    I asked him how many safety violations had he broke and how many could he have broken and not had an AD or lost a piece of himself?
    Since the round exited the house he was lucky nobody else was hurt.
    The whole point of the safety rules is tolerance stack, but at some point violate enough and you will cause harm.
    I gave him grief whenever I could on it.
    And now he has a permanent reminder of his safety lapse(s)....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1942bull View Post
    The chamber should only be empty when cleaning the gun.
    Step 1 to cleaning a gun? It isnt making sure the gun is clear. Its making sure you have another loaded gun within arms reach. Step 2 is clearing the gun to be cleaned.
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    Empty chamber in my carry piece?

    No thanks.

    All five are occupied in my snub.
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    If I decided to carry my old Colt SAA, then sure, I'd be carrying it with an empty chamber under the hammer. But the last time I did that was in the late 60's. I always carry my J frames with a full cylinder. Five shots is few enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    I carry with all five chambers loaded!

    But I do like to just remind people when this topic comes up that the Israeli forces and the Russian Spetsnaz carry with empty chambers and those people are prepared for gunfights! So I try to not be so purist.
    When I am as well trained and proficient as these guys I might consider carrying with an empty chamber. But neither situation is likely.
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    My Chamber Maid says....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5lima30ret View Post
    Empty chamber for Navy Shore Police...when they are allowed to even have a gun! Of course you will always be safe on a Naval installation because no firearms are allowed even for off-duty LEO's! BTW, that is not the way it is on most Army & AF installations.
    Every time I carried a pistol for the Air Force, it was loaded chamber, decocked safety off in the M9
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    While I think it common knowledge that condition 1 is the only method of carry for immediate threat response, I do not subscribe to the idea that it’s better to not carry at all if one chooses to carry with an empty chamber.

    To allow for a broader perspective, it’s much like the idea that a concealed carry under layers of clothing is faster than a pocket carried gun, or other such method in which there are pros and cons, of which neither can be predictable in their occurrences.

    It presupposes that all deadly force or firearm needs will be immediate, which is not true at all, as surely it is easily demonstrated that there are many situations where there is a need for a firearm , but there is adequate time to ready it for use.

    An example is there is a certain lady in my office who has a RIA Officer length gun in her desk with a loaded mag, empty chamber because she is worried about someone coming in with an ax to grind in the worst way, but she is not comfortable with a round chambered.....however, at least she has a gun if someone comes in shooting.

    With that said, for my purposes, I carry one in the pipe. However, keeping in mind different people with different skill level and needs that want something available to them, I would rather them do this than nothing at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by norcalAF View Post
    Every time I carried a pistol for the Air Force, it was loaded chamber, decocked safety off in the M9
    Mine had all six chambers loaded, S&W M-10/15.
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    I recently acquired this police trade-in, & it's in current rotation. Replacing my XD sub-compact. Cocked & locked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete63 View Post
    I recently acquired this police trade-in, & it's in current rotation. Replacing my XD sub-compact. Cocked & locked!

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    Which police force was still using the high power? Neat find nonetheless.
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