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    I use plain ol white box economy pack HP’s for all my carry guns, regardless of caliber. I get 100 rounds for the cost of 40 rounds of so called defensive ammo.
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    Question

    Don't mind the bullet count in each box. Which of these 2 Speer GD bullets is preferred? Or, are they both the same bullet, one being 20 in a box, the other being 50 in a box?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSW5906 View Post
    Don't mind the bullet count in each box. Which of these 2 Speer GD bullets is preferred? Or, are they both the same bullet, one being 20 in a box, the other being 50 in a box?
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/speer...l-protection-a
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/speer...int-ammo-53617
    Same rounds. Federal does that with the HSTs. 20 round boxes increase the cost/round dramatically over the 50 round boxes. Some places pretend that the 50 round boxes can only be sold to LEOs

    Don't know about Gold Dot pricing, but HSTs often go on sale in the 50 round boxes for $19.95 - which makes them a lot cheaper than the 20 round boxes are ever selling for in my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSW5906 View Post
    Don't mind the bullet count in each box. Which of these 2 Speer GD bullets is preferred? Or, are they both the same bullet, one being 20 in a box, the other being 50 in a box?
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/speer...l-protection-a
    https://www.sgammo.com/product/speer...int-ammo-53617
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    Whichever one is on sale. Both perform above par.

    With that said, I'm currently using HST. I bought 500 rounds a couple of years ago on a good sale with free shipping from Ammunition Depot.
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    After shooting 200+ rounds of each I went with the 124G +P Gold Dots for everyday carry. For me I had tighter groups and a bit more repeatability on target.

    That's just for me personally. You may see other results but you owe it to yourself to at least shoot a few boxes of each and make a personal decision instead of relying on an internet forum choice.

    Just a suggestion.
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    I run XTP in everything. Usually they are all I can find locally for handloads. Everything I have seen on line show they expand less pretty than others, but penetrate well.

    Gmans real world testing in flesh and bone shows the work well.
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    Either round should be fine in my opinion, as long as they work in your gun flawlessly, and you can put rounds on target. Personally, I like XTPs, either 115 or 124, standard pressure 124 HST, or 124 Sig V Crown. The Sig ammo runs $13 and some change at my LGS. All three have never had a failure of any type in my guns.
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    Hornady XTP 124gr JHP 9mm +P. Great performer and cheap at Academy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Struckat View Post
    I run XTP in everything. Usually they are all I can find locally for handloads. Everything I have seen on line show they expand less pretty than others, but penetrate well.

    Gmans real world testing in flesh and bone shows the work well.
    Ditto. That is what I carry too. They are cheap, relatively speaking. I reload HAP frequently as my range load. I also like how accurate they are. I don’t mind that they punch a little deeper, and don’t worry that they only expand to .45” vs .55”...
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    Both are well-performing and reliable defensive rounds. I suggest you buy a box or two of each and compare them to see which shoots best in your gun. One may prove to be preferable (more accurate or reliable)—or not.
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    I have both, either will get the job done.
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    I use the 124 grain +P HST. I would have no problem using Gold Dots either.

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    I found some Winchester 9mm 127 gr. +P+ for sale online. Are these all that most say they are, like the best 9mm bullet made for SD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunSW5906 View Post
    I found some Winchester 9mm 127 gr. +P+ for sale online. Are these all that most say they are, like the best 9mm bullet made for SD?
    This list was compiled by Dr. Gary Roberts. He is THE leading expert in terminal ballistics and round performance

    The following loads all demonstrate outstanding terminal performance and can be considered acceptable for duty/self-defense use:

    9 mm:
    Barnes XPB 115 gr JHP (copper bullet)
    Federal Tactical 124 gr JHP (LE9T1)
    Federal HST 124 gr +P JHP (P9HST3)
    Remington Golden Saber bonded 124 gr +P JHP (GSB9MMD)
    Speer Gold Dot 124 gr +P JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
    Winchester 124 gr +P bonded JHP (RA9BA)
    Winchester Ranger-T 127 gr +P+ JHP (RA9TA)
    Federal Tactical 135 gr +P JHP (LE9T5)
    Hornady Critical Duty 135 gr +P PT
    Federal HST 147 gr JHP (P9HST2)
    Remington Golden Saber 147 gr JHP (GS9MMC)
    Speer Gold Dot 147 gr JHP
    Speer G2 147 gr PT
    Winchester Ranger-T 147 gr JHP (RA9T)
    Winchester 147 gr bonded JHP (RA9B/Q4364)

    .40 S&W:
    Barnes XPB 140 & 155 gr JHP (copper bullet)
    Speer Gold Dot 155 gr JHP
    Federal Tactical 165 gr JHP (LE40T3)
    Speer Gold Dot 165 gr JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 165 gr JHP (RA40TA)
    Federal HST 180 gr JHP (P40HST1)
    Federal Tactical 180 gr JHP (LE40T1)
    Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)
    Speer Gold Dot 180 gr JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 180 gr JHP (RA40T)
    Winchester 180 gr bonded JHP (RA40B/Q4355/S40SWPDB1)

    .45 ACP:
    Barnes XPB 185 gr JHP (copper bullet)
    Hornady Critical Duty 220 gr +P JHP
    Federal HST 230 gr JHP (P45HST2)
    Federal HST 230 gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
    Federal Tactical 230 gr JHP (LE45T1)
    Speer Gold Dot 230 gr JHP
    Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr JHP (RA45T)
    Winchester Ranger-T 230 gr +P JHP (RA45TP)
    Any thing on it will perform adequately. Pick one and roll.

    Here's a link to the discussion


    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....f-Defense-Ammo

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