When were all down to ball I am packing the 45.

When were all down to ball I am packing the 45.

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    When were all down to ball I am packing the 45.

    I don't know about all of you but, the vast majority of my ammo stash is FMJ. Sure, I have several hundred rounds of JHP for each caliber but, what happens when that runs dry if we really have to use it? At that point I am down to round ball and then the oft repeated point "modern ammo has made all calibers the same" mantra starts to fall apart in my opinion.
    The 45acp and the 357 magnum will become the primary then. Since I will be back to caveman ammo I am going bigger and/or faster.
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    Forester58, I don't think it's going to matter much if things get that bad.
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    45 Auto. “ They all fall to ball”
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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    I don't know about all of you but, the vast majority of my ammo stash is FMJ. Sure, I have several hundred rounds of JHP for each caliber but, what happens when that runs dry if we really have to use it? At that point I am down to round ball and then the oft repeated point "modern ammo has made all calibers the same" mantra starts to fall apart in my opinion.
    The 45acp and the 357 magnum will become the primary then. Since I will be back to caveman ammo I am going bigger and/or faster.
    I will have transitioned to the 5.45 and 7.62 well before I run out of handgun carry ammo.
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    If I survive enough gunfights to go through all my defensive ammo, which is about what you probably have, I will go down in the record books. And I’ll be very deaf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    I don't know about all of you but, the vast majority of my ammo stash is FMJ. Sure, I have several hundred rounds of JHP for each caliber but, what happens when that runs dry if we really have to use it? At that point I am down to round ball and then the oft repeated point "modern ammo has made all calibers the same" mantra starts to fall apart in my opinion.
    The 45acp and the 357 magnum will become the primary then. Since I will be back to caveman ammo I am going bigger and/or faster.
    You need to move out of that neighborhood...
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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    I don't know about all of you but, the vast majority of my ammo stash is FMJ. Sure, I have several hundred rounds of JHP for each caliber but, what happens when that runs dry if we really have to use it? At that point I am down to round ball and then the oft repeated point "modern ammo has made all calibers the same" mantra starts to fall apart in my opinion.
    The 45acp and the 357 magnum will become the primary then. Since I will be back to caveman ammo I am going bigger and/or faster.
    One of the things that have always been endearing for me about the 45Auto, that also applies to revolvers using Keith style bullets in about any commonly used SD caliber is, you can, to a great degree, ignore the rat race that leads to more expense for a negligible return on performance.
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    All ammo is self-defense, some are just better than others. I picked up some self-defense ammo in .338 Winchester Magnum the other day.
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    Yep I think for most people on here if we are down to FMJ and target loads things have gone very very very wrong and the gov is not really there ..Most gunfights in a SD rold only last what a few rounds at most so if we are going trough 50 -100-200-300 rounds of SD ammo oh dear
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    How many gunfights are you planning on getting in during the pandemic?

    And as one shooting instructor I had used to say, "How much ammo you need depends on how much you plan on missing."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmf552 View Post
    How many gunfights are you planning on getting in during the pandemic?

    And as one shooting instructor I had used to say, "How much ammo you need depends on how much you plan on missing."
    Well, you know. Zombie apocalypse and all.

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    I only have ball ammo in .45, .357, and.44.
    It will Keell.

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    In 10mm, 357 Sig and 45 GAP I only have JHP - I could build the wall from 300 movie that @OldVet posted before I ran out of niche HP.
    Then I could start on the 45 acp, 40 S&W and 9mm HP ... I would likely be out of toilet paper before I was out of HP. (I learned from the past ammo panics).
    But yes, if all the HP was gone and I still had food, beer and something to wipe with, 45 FMJ would be preferred over 40 or 9mm FMJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by forester58 View Post
    Well, you know. Zombie apocalypse and all.
    Some among us are less than optimistic about our fellow mankind. Having witnessed a few riots you may want to invest in fire extinguishers. Rioters come in packs, their not looking for those that resist but those that are submissive/frightened. When Martin Luther King was assassinated we trained for riot control at Lejeune but were not deployed thus I ended up deployed to 3Rd BN 8th Marines at GITMO. One of the things we were taught concerning riot control was to take out the leaders of the rioters.

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