This is a discussion on Comfort vs capacity within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by S.A.Reloader militant, now that is a nice set of "gear". You may get half an hour earlier up now in order to ...
Here it is with a single stack mag, taken out of my pocket just now for this photo op.
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20 years ago I had moved up to a Glock 26/27 (no spare mag)
Now I carry at least a midsize Glock (19/23/32/30SF) + spare mag + pocket gun
Vacationed on the Gulf for the last week, temp 90-92 with 106-109 heat index (miserable) I carried* a Glock 31+ spare mag + pocket PM9 - running errands, shopping, out to eat, ...
Its nearly as hot at home (miserable) and later when I go to Wal-Mart, pick up a pizza, ...will carry same as I did on Gulf.
*When walking beach in the blazing sun outside Gulf house I made do with just the PM9, same as I would here mowing the yard in the blazing sun.
I'm not inclined to disarm for a concert, game, (entertainment) and I ain't going on a plane or cruise.
"Wouldn't want to or Nobody volunteer to" get shot by _____ is not indicative of quickly incapacitating.
I've adopted that method, too. But I also carry a Glock 19 IWB. On occasions I have carried my 640 and an NAA 22 WMR pocket revolver. Again, not a bad option.
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I have a G26, which makes sense, as I carry larger 9mm Glocks as duty pistols. In the past, I briefly owned a G27. One problem with these blocky beasties is not so much the width, as that the width and blockiness protrudes so far to the rear, as the full width of the slide extends to cover the striker mechanism. My concealment nemesis is the outer rear corner of a Glock slide.
Total length of these baby Glocks is so short, that they are unstable in inside-the-waistband holsters, if the holster is sized to the length of the gun. A longer holster, sized for a longer Glock, is, for me, more stable and more comfortable, whether the gun in the holster is a G26, a G19, or G17.
I have experimented with single-stack nines, from the HK P7, in 1985, to Third-Generation S&W autos in the mid-Nineties, to a Kahr K9 in the late Nineties. The P7 pistols had to go away due to lean financial times, plus, I simply did not shoot them as well as my revolvers, and I was concerned about the track record of 9mm "stopping power" in those days of primitive JHP technology. The S&W 39-series Nines went away when I entered a phase dedicated to 1911 pistols. The Kahr K9 was nice, but I had to place my finger "just so" on the trigger face for maximum accuracy, a complication which I would rather not have to deal with, when my 1911 pistols and various revolvers had very "natural" trigger placement for my index fingers. My SP101 snub-guns remained my pocket and ankle holster guns, and my 1911 pistols remained my usual carry guns.
With the G26 being so wide and blocky, I wanted to like the G43, when it appeared on the market, but I found its trigger placement to be like the K9, requiring me to hold my finger in a very particular "just so" manner, and its gripping area to be annoying small/narrow, so it tended to squirm in my hand during the trigger stroke. Dry-firing the G43 quickly told me that this was not to become my compact nine. It may be perfect for others, just not for me.
As a point of reference, a Walther PP or PPK/s is narrow, but does not squirm in my hand. (I have a VERY nice West German-made PPK/s.) My "dream" pistol, my "holy grail," would be a PPK/s with the power of 9mm +P, that does not carve grooves in my hand, of course. My PPK/s is not a normal part of my carry equation, though that could change in the future, after I cycle several hundred rounds of a really good JHP load through it. It would probably be a hide-out/back-up weapon, only, as I would prefer that my "primary" handgun have a slide stop that can be manually-activated, in the event of a malfunction clearance situation.
I do not subscribe to most of the Rule of Three. I do like the idea of being able to fire three quick rounds at an opponent, but opponents tend to occur in multiples around here, these days. One or more will step from the car, and the driver, and sometimes a door gunner, remain inside the car. If I am alone, and have room to maneuver, ammunition capacity is not such a priority, so a snub-gun may be well-suited. If I have an infant grandson with me, or an elderly parent/relative with me, or have no room to maneuver, I will want more options. (One option is multiple small guns*, if they fit my hand well, enabling fast-and-quick shooting.)
I do, actually, concern myself with the possibility of crazed drug-"heads," and do not think of them as being confined to any type of neighborhood. Some of the new synthetic drugs make people do very unusual things, and even rich kids experiment with such foolishness.
On comfort: A full-sized, 5", all-steel 1911, if worn in a thoughtfully-designed holster, on a sturdy belt, can be amazingly comfortable, all day. From 1990 to 1997, I wore such guns occasionally. From 1997 to 2002, I wore such guns daily. From 2012, to the present, I have been wearing such guns occasionally, again, after learning that I can, indeed, carry different, specific autopistol platforms, without negative consequences in performance. (I had found it best NOT to use both SIGs and Glocks, but Glock + 1911 works for me.) To be clear, I am not recommending that anyone add the 1911 platform into their carry equation, just saying that such large, heavy pistols can be comfortable.
Nothing in this post is intended to to be a definitive answer. Just "thoughts," as requested.
*For several years, while required to use large double-stack .40 pistols while at work, my typical personal-time carry guns were .357 revolvers; I carried as many as three SP101 snub-guns at a time, or one medium-framed revolver along with an SP101.
Short fat old guy here. I can still IWB carry but am just getting too lazy to. Mostly now carry my 38 Super in a Milt Sparks 55BN right handed OWB holster, I wear a dark muscle shirt with a lose fitting, unbuttoned light shirt over it and the gun. If I do IWB it's in a Milt Sparks VM-2 back at the 4:30 position. Carrying OWB is by far the most comfortable.
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The difference between me and my experience as an MP dog handler and an active duty LEO, is that I've pretty much always found myself AVOIDING trouble and confrontation, not looking for it as a LEO. Therefore, my needs and perceived threat level is - I'm sure - significantly tame compared to yours in law enforcement.
As for 1911s, that's pretty much what I carried exclusively in the army, but they were pretty typical weapons from the armory, probably dating back to WWII or Korea. Perhaps if I'd gotten into a newer 1911 that had been accurized enough to do the job without being too finicky, I'd have taken that route.
The jury is still out, but I'm pleased to say that I feel proficient with Glocks and the 9mm Shield for now.
Thanks for your input, all of you, and those in law enforcement, thanks much for YOUR service to our nation and your citizens. As for now I wear a paracord bracelet with a thin blue cord in the center of the wrap ... 24/7. I admire the vast majority of the LEOs I've come to know over the years and consider several of them to be friends.
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