Sig P365...Yes or No?
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I went and shot my 365 and 43X today. Did all one handed, both eyes open drills, safety glasses only. The ...
February 19th, 2019 07:39 PM
Itís the real deal!
I went and shot my 365 and 43X today. Did all one handed, both eyes open drills, safety glasses only. The 365 just naturally points better and I was able to start doable taps with the 365, as Iím still not good enough with the 43X yet. In fact, my groups were better with the P365 at 8 yards than the G43X was at 4 or 5 yards! Itís just a natural extension of my hand, and my shooting it shows. My newest P365 has just over 700 rounds through it. The G43X has about 400.
The 365 is carried in the pocket, in an old Desantis Nemesis holster I had for the G42, or OWB in at 3/3:30. I canít pocket carry the 43 or the 43X.
Now with two hands, the Glocks 43X/48 give me s better grip due to the larger size. But with Talons and the 12rd mags, the 365 is right there. My G27 with conversion barrel has lesser barrel flip, of all my EDC pistols.
I had an earlier produced P365, Oct date. It shot well, only issue was the sights. I let myself be swayed by internet heros.My current one was produced in Jan 2019. I put 500 rounds of RN through that first P365 in two hours, along with about 125 of mixed carry ammo. Never a malfunction. Sights were dim, was going to replace it with Nigh Fision front, but sold it off instead. Corrected that mistake with the new one, which has way better sights!
FYI, Osage County Guns has Sig P365 mags on sale, <$40! I picked up five 12rds! Thatís cheaper than buying 10rd mags and getting extended base plates!
Iím a Glock fan boy, I really like them. They are super easy to maintain and shoot and they just work. I alss donít really care about capacity, I feel well protected by a snubbie or pocket 380. But the P365 offers reliable and capacity in an unbelievably small pistol that is very shootable and has low recoil. And itís normally price at or below the G43X and G48, and comes with night sights!
These are just my personal feelings though. :)
February 19th, 2019 08:07 PM
jmf552, I'm also waiting for the manual safety version to come out. Anybody have any idea when that might be?
All my striker fire pistols have the manual safety. It is automatic that I swipe it off on the draw. I do an awful lot of drawing/dry fire practice at home.
I can't hardly wait to have a 365 in my pocket, I might just go ahead and order a Vedder pocket locker for it so I'll be ready from day one. But then again, maybe I should wait to confirm that Sig is planning on making the manual safety version.
February 19th, 2019 08:16 PM
^^^Either is a great choice!^^^ Whichever scratches your itch! Enjoy it!
Originally Posted by Novarider
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February 19th, 2019 08:23 PM
The P365 IS "all that"!
Originally Posted by 380ACP
It is truly a game-changer for practical CC! For the concealability, capacity, and shootability, in a service caliber, I've yet to see anything else come close.
I've had mine for 4 or 5 months now, and have run about 700 rounds through it. Shoots far better than anything else in its size class, and has been 100% reliable with all manner of JHP SD and FMJ target/plinking ammo. Practical accuracy is comparable to most full-size 9mm's, and felt recoil is considerably lighter than any other micro-9 I've shot. I have big hands (XL to XXL gloves), but with the 12-round pinky-rest mag, the P365 feels like it was custom made for me.
The P365 has replaced my CM9 - and the Shield and M&P 9C - as my CCW of choice for the vast majority of circumstances.
Originally Posted by Cornhusker95
Amazing little pistol!
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February 19th, 2019 08:30 PM
Mine is an Oct 18, no hiccups in about 300 rounds of my hand loads. Flat point plated and XTP for defense loads. What shocks me is how soft it shoots. I traded a 290rs which is heavier but had a lot more recoil.
Itís the first tiny nine that I shoot almost as well as some of my larger guns.
The 365 is small and thin, easy carry, but too big for my tiny pockets. Thatís ok as I didnít buy it for the pockets. IWB or AIWB depending on the situation.
Not an EDC, but it has its moments.
February 19th, 2019 08:32 PM
You're going to love this:
Originally Posted by spclopr8tr
And to stay on topic...I actually had both a Glock 43 and a P365 in front of me this past Summer. It was $409 for the Glock vs $529 for the Sig. While amazed by the size of the Sig I'd already heard about the problems with the firing pin swipe. That and cost of mags too. $20 for a Glock 43 mag vs. $50 for the Sig. I always like to have at least 4-6 more magazines for any particular carry pistol. That would have been some serious cash for extra Sig mags.
I picked Glock. Then I proceeded to buy more mags on sale, stick Pearce +1's on three out of the four I got, and Ameriglo Hackathorn sights on it for another $53. I'm not a fan of the three dot system any more. All said and done I like what I have. I think I'm close to about 1200-1300 rounds through this little guy with nary a hiccup on factory ammo and only one failure to feed on one cartridge when working up some really light 90gr loads.
I'm actually on the hunt now for a second Glock as a hot spare should this one go down. But only you can decide though. It really does come down to personal preference. But some also overlook the cost factor...not that it should matter too much on a carry gun.
February 19th, 2019 10:10 PM
I saw a video of a Sig rep at the SHOT Show saying it would be "in the Spring." The manual safety version is not on the Sig website yet. I don't think we will have long to wait, the problem will be getting one. I'm thinking of finding a Sig dealer near me and seeing if I can pre-order.
Originally Posted by rlggray
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February 19th, 2019 10:15 PM
Our rep said it is coming for sure, and it should be "soon"...Some people are still arguing how well it will sell. I will make sure to mention this thread :)
Originally Posted by rlggray
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February 19th, 2019 11:20 PM
Thanks everyone for your input! Iím really thinking Iíll give it a go. Soon as the feds get moving, Iíll post some pics and follow up with impressions and a range report. Unless I handle the thing and am just completely turned off, but being a Sig, thatís unlikely.
Thanks for the tip, theyíre under $35 now! Iíll definitely be picking at least one up.
Originally Posted by Lefty_Red
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February 20th, 2019 12:37 AM
You can't go wrong with either one. When both have their flush fit mags, the p365 offers a little more grip length. Bottom line- put them side by side, handle them, point them at the ceiling so no one freaks out, and you'll know what you want.
Originally Posted by Novarider
Also, Hickok45 has a new 43x video and he says he is carrying a p365 in pocket or owb. He gifted his son a p365 and the son is carrying it. I read Sootch is also carrying a p365. Paul Buffoni of BCM carries a p365. When I buy a p365, I'm going to create Glock decals to go over the Sig Sauer logo!
February 20th, 2019 01:07 AM
The P365 is ďmodularĒ as well. The polymer grip module is able to be ordered if other versions, like with a safety or back straps or different colors are offered.
February 20th, 2019 07:58 AM
Self admitted EDCaholic guy. I love watching EDC videos. The Hickok45 video on the 43x was almost epic when he gave the nod to the P365. I have not seen where Sootch00 is carrying it? Do you remember where you read that at?
Originally Posted by Big Western
I have a G26 also that will not be going anywhere. I will depart with my G19 before the G26 leaves.
February 20th, 2019 09:36 AM
Getting a Glock 43 for $409 was a good score indeed. Locally they are going for $499 on sale, which is the same as the Sig 365. The Sig comes with excellent night sights while the Glock comes with the cheapest plastic sights (actually just dovetail place holders) imaginable. So, at local prices the Sig is a better value out the door.
Originally Posted by Risasi
Yes, you can catch Glock magazines on sale for $20 but that's not their retail price. And no one should be paying $50 for a Sig 365 12-round magazine. They are available on-line in the upper $30s. And they are steel which I prefer. And does anyone actually pay Dillion $39.99 for a Glock 19 magazine?
I waited to buy a Glock 43 until after Glock had fixed the stupid stiff triggers of the G43s that Glock initially fostered off onto the shooting public. After they fixed that problem I bought one and took it to the range a couple of times in one week. Liked it and went back to the same store and bought a second one. Turned out they have consecutive serial numbers. But the second one had a very sharp high burr running the length of safety tab. I had to disassemble the gun and remove the trigger so I could sand off the high and shape burr. This is just the latest example on my own Glocks bought in the last few years that Glock's quality is not what it used to be.
Oh, and the rear sight on that second G43 was so poorly made that I could slide it back and forth in the dovetail just with slight nail pressure. It made sighting in the gun in impossible since recoil moved the sight around. For me it wasn't a huge problem since I always change sights on any Glock, but it just should not be on a $500 dollar gun.
Now that I've changed the sights of the G43 to TFOs, added Talon rubber grips and removed the high sharp burr on the one trigger I really like my Glock 43s. I also added a G42 after they fixed its initial reliability problem so that it actually worked instead of being a paperweight. The Glock 43s have now become my favorite Glocks, relegating my G19s to second place.
I've never owned a Sig that I kept for over a couple of years, but it was never because of reliability problems. From what I read I expect that Sig has fixed the reliability problems of the first ones released. The Sig 365 is indeed intriguing and may find a place on my belt sometime in the future. But for the time being I really like my G43s.
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February 20th, 2019 10:02 AM
Iíve handled one, but not shot it, and not really inclined to.
Im sure itís a fine piece, but there is nothing there that I like enough to motivate me in spending the money for it to replace what is already serving my needs very well.
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February 21st, 2019 03:13 PM
I bought my P365 a couple of months ago. I've got 500+ rounds through it and it has been flawless. My PM9 now sits in the draw as 13 beats 7. As for mags, they are a screw but you can buy the 10 rds for $29 on eBay all day long and the 12's for another $10. Yea, the gun is expensive and so are the mags, but it feels great, shoots accurately and gives you twice the rounds of comparable concealed carry weapons. I figure my life is worth the extra $$. Otherwise, I'd carry a Hipoint and pray!
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