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Plus 1 in your pistol

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    Always plus 1. Also have a +1 extention on my mags.
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    My Beretta is 26 years old and has had +1 since day one. Still use the original mags with original springs, never had an issue. Never heard of it being an issue till now.
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    Aw man ...

    I'm so outa line here on the Forum. I just don't load "+1." Insert magazine loaded to capacity, chamber a round, flick the safety on, and go.

    The automatics here will all function fine with a full magazine and one up the spout. I just don't bother with it. Don't even have a solid reason why I don't.

    - Lazy

    - No vision

    - Higher expectations for the effectiveness of the first round fired than for the "+1" round.

    - Habit

    Read all the thoughtful responses here pointing out why it's expedient. Probably won't change the habit though. Just can't gen up enough concern.

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    +1 for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DZUS View Post
    This question comes up every so often, and it's always worth commenting again.

    I'm a full mag plus one in the chamber. This was my training in all of my CCW courses, and it's the general conclusion of at least most of the articles I read on the topic.

    To be sure, having the extra cartridge might be a life saver, but there are other persuasive reasons, as well.

    First, consider that when carrying with a chambered round, you do not rack the slide for the first shot. In a time of major need, your hands could be shaky, dirty, or slippery (sweat, blood, anything.) The slide could be difficult to completely rack, and you might have a failure to load just when you need reliability. Another consideration re obligatory slide-racking is that the procedure can be a bit noisy. If you are hidden from the bad guys, the slide can be an unfortunate alert to an armed self-defender.

    Second, let's say that your magazine is either defective or dirty or insufficiently seated. These are the prescriptions for failures to load and fire. The one cartridge in battery is likely good to go, thus no matter what you have at least one shot.

    I carry with a round in the chamber, most do, not all. Your level of comfort and your assessment of your ability to manage the firearm safely are your guides.

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    ...but carrying one in the chamber, is a different discussion, from carrying +1. For example: Duty carry, for my department, is one in the chamber, fourteen in the inserted magazine. Three, fifteen rounds mags, a total of forty-five rounds.
    The aspects you site, as to why we should carry with a round in the chamber, still apply, and are still addressed, even if you don't top off the inserted magazine. The difference is, one less round in the gun, and overall in your load out.


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    My former large-city department has always taught chamber, remove magazine, top it off. This went along with not allowing the pistol to run dry, but instead count your rounds fired, drop the mag when it runs out and reload. Officers are issued ammo for all magazines they wish to carry +1. I still do follow that practice.
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    If the gun will function reliably loaded to +1 then that’s the way I carry it.
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    You can't have to much ammo......There was a cop in Salt Lake city that only carried the ammo that was in his gun when off duty, he got into a shoot out in a mail and he
    ran out of ammo but it turn out ok because the bad guy ended up dead in the end.

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    Always top off +1.

    Any decent pistol is designed to operate +1 so why not?

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    After reading about testing your carry pistol with +1, I went to the range today and did so.

    Happy to report that my PPS functioned flawlessly running all 4 mags at +1 configuration. I did notice that when ejecting the mags after chambering the first round that the top round in the mag had moved forward in the feed lips a little. Normal, I guess.
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    Never saw a good reason not to carry +1. Since my carry guns have usually had 6 round magazines, every extra round really counts

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    I carry 15+1 in my Glock 22 on a daily basis. I have a couple of rounds in my pocket; I load one round manually, then insert a full magazine. Another full mag (or two) on on my belt.

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    I did it that way for many years, most of my life, actually...drop one into the barrel, release the slide and insert full mag. Someone finally taught me a few short years ago that that's hard on extractors, and it's much better to load the chamber from the mag. I was told (by someone who knew lots more than I do about pistols) that doing it my way would ruin an extractor.
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    I tried the +1 in my Glock 43 It choked again and again

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