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This is why I laugh at the "full size fighting pistol" (sic) crowd.
A pistol is a sidearm. A one-handed backup weapon to a rifle or shotgun. That we sometimes are forced to rely on them when out in polite company doesn't change this fact.
When God says it isn't your time...it isn't your time. Been there myself. Only reason I'm still here.
Glad the victim recovered.
"You talk a lot, but you're not saying anything" - Psycho Killer, The Talking Heads
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“No possible rapidity of fire can atone for habitual carelessness of aim with the first shot.”
Theodore Roosevelt, The Wilderness Hunter, 1893
The last time I faced down a 2000+lb bull, all I had was a pitchfork. Amazing how fast they can change direction when given the proper incentive!
He had an attitude for everyone on the place except me. Every time he saw me after that, he would stop whatever he was doing and go stand in his corner until I told him he could come out.
Too bad he didn't challenge me until about a week after he did $3000 damage to my neighbor's pickup.
Two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.
A well armed lamb contesting the vote.
Any hit on the upper torso, let alone anywhere else is not a miss. Misses don't physically damage the antagonist, hits do, no matter where they land. A hit to their shoulder/rotator that's controlling their weapon that results in their dropping the weapon or not being able to further fire on you is a good hit. The goal is to get the aggressor to stop being an imminent threat.
A hit in their gun hand, they drop the gun, is a good hit, it neutralized the imminent threat.
On paper, they may not be considered good hits, but the reality is they may be as good as any other hit/s.
I wouldn't want to discount any hits on threat as furthering damage and thus diminishing their ability to make effective hits on a defender. If I'm hit, my capacity to respond has been diminished to some extent. First to make hit/s has proven time and again to result in aggressors deciding they've had enough and stop being an imminent threat.
Nothing can be relied on in gun play, but all hits count. The majority of autopsy findings do not exhibit multiple rounds in the "A" zone of an IPSC target. One thing we do know from autpsy's is they all died from gunshot wounds in the various upper body areas.
Wyatt Earp quoted as saying "Fast is fine, but accuracy is final. You have to learn to be slow in a hurry". But the OK Corral gun battle proved he was neither fast nor very accurate when the lead was incoming from near spitting distance. Neither was Masterson that day.
Get your hits on threat before they get hits on you and keep putting them into them until they are no longer a threat. That will be hard enough to do when the pucker factor has reached critical mass for most. What I'd not want to see is someone taking too much time trying for more accuracy than they need and get nailed in the process.
Last edited by AzQkr; May 17th, 2019 at 04:07 AM.
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Gun carry permits and the 2nd amendment only confirm what is a God given right to protect ones life and the lives of loved ones from evil.
Speed is only a matter of money. How fast do you want to go?
Shot placement first, Penetration next......omo.
Where was Masterson that day............?
Why did the Moron buy a ladder...... he's takin' his case to a higher court.
The reality is this was one incident that was an anomaly. I certainly would not use it as an example to vindicate anything I believed in. That was one lucky man, or as Samuel Jackson opined; Divine intervention.
A man has got to know his limitations.
Mattox and Platt were shot all to hell that fateful day in Miami. Shots “ somewhere” on the body didn’t get it done then, or in any shooting.
Proper training, will allow one to do this.
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“ Looking around doesn’t cost you anything; and it’s a healthy habit”