The S&W Bodyguard is out of service

The S&W Bodyguard is out of service

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    The S&W Bodyguard is out of service

    My issues began about a little while back, but I thought it was operator error, however the issue has now become so regular in occurrence that it’s obvious that the little gun has developed issues.

    Yesterday evening, I was doing some draw and shoot drills from the pocket when I noticed the magazine was coming out of the pistol grip, just far enough to prevent the feeding of the next round. At first I thought it was a mag issue, so I isolated that one and tried the other two. Same issue. It seems like any pressure against the base of the mag during the cycling firing of the weapon would allow the magazine to come loose and slide down.

    A little rant here if I may:)

    This is the first gun I have purchased that uses polymer mag catches against a steel magazine. I have steered away from that combination because the eventual results were obvious to me. Let’s see, steel vs polymer; which one will wear?
    I should have listened to my instinct, and stayed with Glocks using the poly mags against a poly mag catch, because that’s exactly what in the hell happened.

    I was expressing this to a salesman in Buds Gun Shop, and he said “ well, what would you have if a manufacturer made a gun that lasted? “

    Without missing a beat I said “ You would have a damned Glock”.

    Ok, rant over.

    I suppose I shot and operated the little gun more than S&W intended. The metal mags have worn the polymer mag catch down like a head of cabbage against a grater.

    So, I will send it back to them to fix, because it has been a reliable and accurate little shooter up to this point.

    But I have found that the G43 actually fits my jeans pockets pretty darn good, and the 42 even better.

    So, I may be heading in that direction while I am waiting on the BG to come back from S&W.

    But never again will I buy a poly gun with metal mags that I intend to shoot a lot.

    Never——-again.
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    I hate to say I told you so!

    No wait, I didn't tell you so. Crap happens. Fix it and pay attention to it on occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    I hate to say I told you so!

    No wait, I didn't tell you so. Crap happens. Fix it and pay attention to it on occasion.
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    Thanks for the heads-up. Who would have thought that someone would buy a pocket pistol with the intention of putting rounds through it? Not S&W, apparently.
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    I hate to hear that. I have a general rule about smallish guns: I just limit how many rounds I put through them for the very reason that they generally just don't hold up to lots of shooting.

    I'm in the process of rebuilding another little Kel-Tec PF-9 using M-Carbo parts. It might be worth a shot to talk to the M-Carbo folks and let them know about the issue you discovered. They have a LOT of very well engineered parts for guns others ignore. Their business is growing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    My issues began about a little while back, but I thought it was operator error, however the issue has now become so regular in occurrence that it’s obvious that the little gun has developed issues.

    Yesterday evening, I was doing some draw and shoot drills from the pocket when I noticed the magazine was coming out of the pistol grip, just far enough to prevent the feeding of the next round. At first I thought it was a mag issue, so I isolated that one and tried the other two. Same issue. It seems like any pressure against the base of the mag during the cycling firing of the weapon would allow the magazine to come loose and slide down.

    A little rant here if I may:)

    This is the first gun I have purchased that uses polymer mag catches against a steel magazine. I have steered away from that combination because the eventual results were obvious to me. Let’s see, steel vs polymer; which one will wear?
    I should have listened to my instinct, and stayed with Glocks using the poly mags against a poly mag catch, because that’s exactly what in the hell happened.

    I was expressing this to a salesman in Buds Gun Shop, and he said “ well, what would you have if a manufacturer made a gun that lasted?

    Without missing a beat I said “ You would have a damned Glock”.

    Ok, rant over.

    I suppose I shot and operated the little gun more than S&W intended. The metal mags have worn the polymer mag catch down like a head of cabbage against a grater.

    So, I will send it back to them to fix, because it has been a reliable and accurate little shooter up to this point.

    But I have found that the G43 actually fits my jeans pockets pretty darn good, and the 42 even better.

    So, I may be heading in that direction while I am waiting on the BG to come back from S&W.

    But never again will I buy a poly gun with metal mags that I intend to shoot a lot.

    Never——-again.


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    In reply to your going with the G43 for pocket carry. Didn't someone lament me pocket carrying my XDs .45 acp in my rt. front pocket?
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    Gman -- approx how many rounds do you think you have through it?
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    Yeah, have to wonder if there’s aftermarket steel parts to fix that.

    My LCPSs are gen 1s, going on 10 years old. I do shoot them regularly. Lately, as they get dirty while shooting, I’ve had to smack the rear of the slide to force them to go home. I think the recoil springs are wearing out. Called Ruger, and three new spring sets AND guide rods are on the way...for free!

    I had two extraction failures a few days ago, as well. Was shooting off the last of my HPR ammo that I bought when .380 ammo was not to be found. Very dirty...but...you wonder.

    So, if I can figure out a way to carry a .357 LCR snub in my pocket without it printing while at work, I might put the LCPs out to pasture myself. Would need a wallet holster due to my large thighs, which would make it look like a book in my pocket! Lol
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    Ruger. Don't mean to always reply with that answer but @ least they have metal to metal contact on the mag - mag catch. Just curious as to what would turn you away from Gen 1 Lcp or LCP 2.
    I've had great success with both.

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    +1 on the LCP 1 & 2! Very dependable .380's IME. (Not fun to shoot but would do the job if called upon.)
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    I hate to pile on....but yeh what were you thinking actually shooting a mousegun?

    My weird mousegun failure involves pocket lint getting caught in the mag catch opening in a Taurus TCP mag....I was unloading the mag when after the second round stripped off, the mag puked out the rest of the rounds....The lint had jammed the follower halfway down the magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MillennialNorth View Post
    Ruger. Don't mean to always reply with that answer but @ least they have metal to metal contact on the mag - mag catch. Just curious as to what would turn you away from Gen 1 Lcp or LCP 2.
    I've had great success with both.

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    I am not a Ruger fan. Their LCP looks like a copy of a KelTec.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wondering View Post
    I hate to pile on....but yeh what were you thinking actually shooting a mousegun?

    My weird mousegun failure involves pocket lint getting caught in the mag catch opening in a Taurus TCP mag....I was unloading the mag when after the second round stripped off, the mag puked out the rest of the rounds....The lint had jammed the follower halfway down the magazine.
    Sounds like you just need a little help with some things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavygravy View Post
    Gman -- approx how many rounds do you think you have through it?
    Hell who knows? I’m not one of these people who keep a record of everything....I just shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman10mm View Post
    Hell who knows? I’m not one of these people who keep a record of everything....I just shoot.
    Oh C'mon, man -- surely you can guesstimate whether it's around 200 rounds or around 2,000?
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