Do active shooter incident like El Paso make you reconsider your CCW choices?

Do active shooter incident like El Paso make you reconsider your CCW choices?

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    Do active shooter incident like El Paso make you reconsider your CCW choices?

    Prayers for the families of those killed and those wounded... was wondering if incidents like this make you reconsider your ccw choice? Many times I carry a J frame 38 spcl snubby in the car and just out around time, but when I go to big box stores or other larger/big group places I carry a CW9 with spare mag as it will give me a bit more distance and power (for summer) and during fall/winter I'll carry a M&P 9c.

    Unless I'd go up to carrying a medium to full size gun like a 4" Glock 19/S&W SD9 or full size Glock 17 sized guns, I'm not sure how much of a change you should make in your CCW picks based off of these still relatively very rare events vs every day one on one close in crime. I think I'd still be better off with the smaller and lighter guns that may have lower round count but I'm much more likely to carry them vs the big handgun that weighs a lot and gets left home because it's a pain in the rear.

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    I have zero problems carrying my Sig P229 (Glock 19 size) every day. Making the switch to AIWB was the best thing I ever did. I do not notice the weight at all. It works for me, but obviously not for everyone.
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    No, primarily because the chances of being involved in one of these is extremely remote. Chances are hugely in your favor that if you need a gun, it will NOT be for this sort of shooting situation. You are more apt to have to shoot a relative, friend, or other person known to you than you are to have to shoot a complete stranger as you might expect from a typical mugging or other crime incident.

    I carry a 1911, regardless.
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    I carry 1911s and donít worry about round count but these types of incidents remind me to always know where the exits are and what may be used for cover/concealment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G26Raven View Post
    I have zero problems carry my Sig P229 (Glock 19 size) every day. Making the switch to AIWB was the best thing I ever did. I do not notice the weight at all. It works for me, but obviously not for everyone.
    yeah AIWB isn't my preference. I don't like having the muzzle pointed at my femoral artery or my family jewels, and it's just not comfortable to have a gun and holster there.

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    No, they don't. My thoughts:
    • I could carry the biggest, highest capacity handgun out there and still be outgunned by an active shooter with an AR or AK.
    • I am not going to stand and trade rounds with that guy. My strategy is going to be escape and evasion, or out maneuvering.
    • Despite all the press, active shooter incidents are actually pretty rare. It's like aircraft accidents. They are really scary and tragic when they happen, but your real transportation danger is still driving. The chance of being in an active shooter situation is actually pretty low. What is more likely is home invasion, mugging, aggravated assault, etc.
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    I carry what I carry, in large part with mass shootings in mind.
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    The cops at the press conference said it took six minutes for leo to arrive.

    Given leo responses at other shootings I am mystified that some people think carrying is unnecessary or perpetuates gun violence.

    Iím not taking a crack at the cops just of the opinion that they canít be everywhere at once and until they can get to you itís on individuals to defend themselves.

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    I carry, mainly for the rare instance, I may be present when an active shooter incident happens. For the everyday, encounters, I believe just being a polite member of society, with above average situational awareness, and self defense skills, will carry me through anything at the personal level.
    For the average self defense situation, close quarters, that rises to a deadly use of force, I'm more likely to use one of my blades. They never run out of ammo, nor malfunction.

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    I carry a 5" 1911 with a spare magazine in the local urban area. No changes here.
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    Nope, but I do carry two extra magazines most of the time. Only exception is when I'm out on the bike. I only carry one extra magazine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterCrabby View Post
    The cops at the press conference said it took six minutes for leo to arrive.

    Given leo responses at other shootings I am mystified that some people think carrying is unnecessary or perpetuates gun violence.

    Iím not taking a crack at the cops just of the opinion that they canít be everywhere at once and until they can get to you itís on individuals to defend themselves.
    Apparently, the guy had already returned to his vehicle and driven away before the police arrived.
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    Nope. SIG P229 in .40 S&W with 2 extra mags. If I'm by myself out and about, I will help people get to safety, but if my wife is with, because of her disability, I may find myself getting her to cover and having the gun drawn and ready to use. I hope it never has to come to that, but I know what I am capable of doing with this gun and train with it often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike1956 View Post
    I carry what I carry, in large part with mass shootings in mind.
    Exactly. If you're firearm can cover certain circumstances, why not expand it to cover a few more? I disregard the 3-3-3 as a rule, and only use it as a starting point. Its not a far stretch to get from a anti mugging tool, to a anti- terrorist attack tool. Most tools can do more than what we ask of them. That being said, I veiw size of firearm and increased capacity / spare ammo as increased insurance. Carry it if you want to, or increase your risk if you don't. How much or how little is up to you. My plans have already been made to include defense against this type of scenario.
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    Yes. In a major city, anything can and does happen.
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