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.38 Super Issues

This is a discussion on .38 Super Issues within the Defensive Carry Guns forums, part of the Defensive Carry Discussions category; Originally Posted by OD* Fingers over rode my brain, that is not the notorious "3 point jam" but is the nose dive jam. Google "the ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Fingers over rode my brain, that is not the notorious "3 point jam" but is the nose dive jam. Google "the nose dive jam in the 1911 pistol" and you'll get tons of reading. This article is one of the better ones. https://americanhandgunner.com/gear/...e-1911-45-acp/
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    Don, you might even try putting the factory extractor back in the Commander.
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    The bullet profile of the magtech, and the Sig ammo's are what I look for. They work 100% in my guns. The CorBon has a blunter profile that gives one of mine fits. What would bother me is the failed plunk test. But in the jam pictured the nose of the bullet did not even make it into the chamber so thats not whats causing the jam. You may have more than one issue. DR
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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I may be deranged, but you could call Colt and see if they will fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD View Post
    I may be deranged, but you could call Colt and see if they will fix it.

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    Thatís just CRAZY talk!
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Fingers over rode my brain, that is not the notorious "3 point jam" but is the nose dive jam. Google "the nose dive jam in the 1911 pistol" and you'll get tons of reading. This article is one of the better ones. https://americanhandgunner.com/gear/...e-1911-45-acp/
    I was wondering about a 3 pt jam but figured youíre the pro from Dover.......

    So a nose dive appears to be caused by a few things, feed ramp, ammo, weak mag springs. Mag springs could be the issue, all 4 mags came with the gun and I have no idea of spring condition. Yet! May order a couple new mags and rebuild the old ones.

    Looking at the feed ramp there is still a bit of the cerecote on the ramp, would it be too risky on a LW frame to attempt to remove the rest?

    And it all may come down to ammo. This gun just might not like Corbon or Sig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    Don, you might even try putting the factory extractor back in the Commander.
    I might do that but I just read an ejector wonít cause the issues Iím having. I think the new one is ok but Iíll pull it and check. Iíll smooth out the edges while Iím at it as when I installed it I just stuck it in and checked to see how much needed to be done but it passed the shake test so I left it. The ejection pattern is consistent now so donít want to mess that up too much!


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    Until he gets it fixed he can borrow one of my Revolvers from my large revolver herd ❤️ 🤪
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangerranger View Post
    The bullet profile of the magtech, and the Sig ammo's are what I look for. They work 100% in my guns. The CorBon has a blunter profile that gives one of mine fits. What would bother me is the failed plunk test. But in the jam pictured the nose of the bullet did not even make it into the chamber so thats not whats causing the jam. You may have more than one issue. DR
    Iím sure I have more than one issue here. Failing the plunk test with 2 different brands of ammo is concerning but not a reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CLASS3NH View Post
    Have you tried the Federal 115Gr +p ammo yet?
    That seems to work VERY well in my 3 Colt Commanders...... ( 2- 50s era guns and 1- 70 series gun)
    Never had a FTF FTE in em... I also use the Fiocci 130 gr stuff, along with the Magtec....
    The Sig V-Crown looks more like a Gold Dot type, and I see other people shy away from the Sig Ammo (various calibers) for some reason...Who knows why...

    Seems like you have, or may have, a short chamber....and possibly Reamer that was nearing the end of Spec was used on your Chamber, thus, the Sig ammo wouldn't fit.
    I'm NOT too sure on the Sig ammo specs either.....Might be out of Spec.
    Have you tried the Buffalo Bore 147 Gr? THAT may very well be your carry load.......
    Last resort is to send the gun back to Colt, with your findings, or call them and see what they want you to do....
    Have tried the Fiocchi which worked fine, have not tried Federal but did try American Eagle and it didnít want to work. First time I shot the gun it didnít function with the heavy bullets but did with the 115 gr loads. Changed the recoil spring and the Magtech worked fine.

    Just going to have to find a load this gun likes, got the dies just need to get things together and start loading.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OD* View Post
    I guess it could be, not sure what else it might be if his cartridge case measurements are correct?
    They're accurate, been reading mics and calipers forever and I have quality tools.

    I found a website that spoke of OAL with the 38 Super, https://web.archive.org/web/20170405...%20Length.html
    I need to go back and compare what I have with what this says as see if there's any correlation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    And it all may come down to ammo. This gun just might not like Corbon or Sig.
    Or it may not like you. We would understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldVet View Post
    Or it may not like you. We would understand.
    Right now that's a distinct possibility!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWOUSCG View Post
    I might do that but I just read an ejector wonít cause the issues Iím having. I think the new one is ok but Iíll pull it and check. Iíll smooth out the edges while Iím at it as when I installed it I just stuck it in and checked to see how much needed to be done but it passed the shake test so I left it. The ejection pattern is consistent now so donít want to mess that up too much!
    Did the factory ejector give you issues?
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    We have had Colt issues with two new to us guns now, sad about it. Went back to my Smith wheel guns they go bang every time
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